Thread: 55 Chevy balancer installation
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09-29-2005 10:50 AM #1
55 Chevy balancer installation
What's the best way to install the stock harmonic balancer on a '55 Chevy 265 engine? The crank's not drilled for a center bolt, so my balancer installation tool won't work. Do I just pound it on or what? ( I have a nice selection of large hammers...).I'd rather be in my garage. . .
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09-29-2005 11:47 AM #2
Re: 55 Chevy balancer installation
Originally posted by cla55ic
What's the best way to install the stock harmonic balancer on a '55 Chevy 265 engine? The crank's not drilled for a center bolt, so my balancer installation tool won't work. Do I just pound it on or what? ( I have a nice selection of large hammers...).Mike
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09-29-2005 12:24 PM #3
Never...NEVER....hammer a cold harmonic balancer onto a crank. The way most of us old timers do it is to place the balancer in a pan of boiling water for 5-10 minutes. Quickly grab the hot balancer with your wife's best towel, duck her blows, and run out to the garage. Place it on the crank, place a 2X6 on the front pf the balancer and then hammer it on. Metal swells when hot and shrinks when it cools off. Trying to hammer on a cold balancer runs the risk of getting it 1/2 the way on and then not being able to move it.Dave
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09-29-2005 12:45 PM #4
Originally posted by dljdad
Never...NEVER....hammer a cold harmonic balancer onto a crank. The way most of us old timers do it is to place the balancer in a pan of boiling water for 5-10 minutes. Quickly grab the hot balancer with your wife's best towel, duck her blows, and run out to the garage. Place it on the crank, place a 2X6 on the front pf the balancer and then hammer it on. Metal swells when hot and shrinks when it cools off. Trying to hammer on a cold balancer runs the risk of getting it 1/2 the way on and then not being able to move it.
ps...in 1960 we didnt have hot running water in the house.Mike
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09-29-2005 02:22 PM #5
Originally posted by dljdad
Never...NEVER....hammer a cold harmonic balancer onto a crank. The way most of us old timers do it is to place the balancer in a pan of boiling water for 5-10 minutes. Quickly grab the hot balancer with your wife's best towel, duck her blows, and run out to the garage. Place it on the crank, place a 2X6 on the front pf the balancer and then hammer it on. Metal swells when hot and shrinks when it cools off. Trying to hammer on a cold balancer runs the risk of getting it 1/2 the way on and then not being able to move it.
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09-29-2005 02:37 PM #6
Originally posted by erik erikson
Won't this cause damage to the inertia ring?Mike
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09-29-2005 02:53 PM #7
It seems like we once used a hydraulic bottle jack placed horizontally to push the darn balancer on.....we bucked it with a board but I cant remember what we placed the board against to hold it.....maybe that's why the radiator leaked after that????
mike in tucson
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09-29-2005 03:02 PM #8
Originally posted by robot
It seems like we once used a hydraulic bottle jack placed horizontally to push the darn balancer on.....we bucked it with a board but I cant remember what we placed the board against to hold it.....maybe that's why the radiator leaked after that????
mike in tucsonMike
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09-29-2005 03:05 PM #9
Thanx to everybody for the tips -- I was just nervous about using a 2-pound Ford wrench on the damn thing. I hadn't thought of heating the balancer, but it sounds like it will work. Can't use the wife's best towel to grab it, though -- I'm using that to set my new polished triple-deuce Offy manifold on.I'd rather be in my garage. . .
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09-29-2005 04:14 PM #10
Never...NEVER....hammer a cold harmonic balancer onto a crank. The way most of us old timers do it is to place the balancer in a pan of boiling water for 5-10 minutes. Quickly grab the hot balancer with your wife's best towel, duck her blows, and run out to the garage. Place it on the crank, place a 2X6 on the front pf the balancer and then hammer it on. Metal swells when hot and shrinks when it cools off. Trying to hammer on a cold balancer runs the risk of getting it 1/2 the way on and then not being able to
i havent been in a good argument(i mean discussion) in a long time and as useual i dont know what im talking about, but anybody believe you can put a HB in a pan of boiling water, take it out, run to the garage get it lined up and knock it on and believe that, that hot water made a dif. then i dont know what to say. it would have gone on as easy if it hadnt never seen any water. i dont believe 230 degrees for 5-10 min. would expand a HB hub enough anyway, but 5 min. later i know it wouldn't. there was thousands of them knocked on without any hot water.
we have 2 opinions now one say it will ,one say it want, now we need some facts.
im not trying to make nobody mad, but i would like to see some more opinions on this.Mike
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09-29-2005 04:41 PM #11
Re: 55 Chevy balancer installation
Originally posted by cla55ic
What's the best way to install the stock harmonic balancer on a '55 Chevy 265 engine? The crank's not drilled for a center bolt, so my balancer installation tool won't work. Do I just pound it on or what? ( I have a nice selection of large hammers...).Ed ke6bnl@juno.com
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09-29-2005 05:21 PM #12
Originally posted by lt1s10
i have used blocks of wood, brass punch, a socket a little bigger than the hole in the HB. shouldn't be hitting the inertia ring, but they will take a right good lick if you accidentally hit it. clean it and put a little grease on it will help. you do what you have to do.
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09-29-2005 05:35 PM #13
Originally posted by erik erikson
What I was asking about was the boiling of the water if it would cause the balancer to seperate from the interia ring.
IM sorry i read something else into it. as far as IM concerned boiling water in a pot, don't do nothing either way. the motor will get that hot, when its running so the HB wouldn't never stay on. you ever put your hand on a block after you cut the motor off. i really hope Ed ke6bnl ant in the house boiling his HB now. i would say if you was to get the hub hot enough to expand that thick metal it would separate from the interia ring, but 230 degrees want.Mike
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09-29-2005 06:00 PM #14
Using your hammer and a good solid block of wood to install balancer is acceptable. If you have time and are willing I strongly recommend drilling and tapping the end of the crankshaft and installing a bolt. Not that hard to do.Ken
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09-30-2005 01:58 PM #15
Originally posted by lt1s10
IM sorry i read something else into it. as far as IM concerned boiling water in a pot, don't do nothing either way. the motor will get that hot, when its running so the HB wouldn't never stay on. you ever put your hand on a block after you cut the motor off. i really hope Ed ke6bnl ant in the house boiling his HB now. i would say if you was to get the hub hot enough to expand that thick metal it would separate from the interia ring, but 230 degrees want.
Works great for bearings, so why not? Thing about heating bearings for installation.. ya gotta get them on FAST 'cause soon as the shaft pulls the heat out of 'em, they shrink back down..
Education is expensive. Keep that in mind, and you'll never be terribly upset when a project goes awry.
EG
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