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gezz I guess selling the most trucks last year and the most cars this year makes ford last?

Excuse me sir. You started with the wise ass remarks. I was just following suit, and continue to do so. I have no ford/ Chevrolet debate...again just being a wise ass like you were.

Thanks for the effort on the suggestion but, I was looking for advice of piston matierial, and cam recomendations. I appretiate the stroker suggestion which is something I though of but would rather stick with the stock crank. Again, I appretiate the suggestion and sorry if I didnt acknowledge you suggestions.

Uh Shawnlee. #1 I dont rememer asking you. #2 GM is the largest manufacturer in the auto world; fact. #3 do your homework before you open your mouth. The point in question was an engine rebuild on my Suburban, not anything about a Ford or any other vehicle for that matter of fact. Suburbans dont do any one thing perfect....but most things real good such as towing, storage, carrying people. Take note: It is the longest made vehicle in the history of the US! Fact! It is the original SUV. Again do your homework before you spout at the mouth. If your opinion or anyone elses on here differs thats fine, your entitled to it, but it has not a thing to do with my small block, and I didnt ask you for it, so what is your point being on the thread I created? I asked questions about my motor rebuild. If anyone else wants to dicuss a Ford engine good, Im glad, have had a few myself, but go do it on the Ford forum thread.

Hey 30-A sounds like you stepped in a pile of shit here. It's not always that way, Dave likes to joke around but he's harmless and does have some good advice. I have a 93 4WD pickup and had the same problems you are discribing. I pulled the motor and it was in good shape after a zillion miles. I took it to a buddy of mine at the machine shop and had them do a hone job on the block plus all the usual rebuild stuff. I went back with the stock pistons, new rings and bearings but I added a Crane RV cam (it's got the power curve you need without killing the mpg too much) and I added a double roller timing chain. Other than that, it's stock. It pulls great (I had a 17' Boston Whaler that I sold) and passing really kicks ass with plenty of power. I get about 15 MPG on the highway, not to good but that's the trade off. I also think it needs to breath more. A different TBI, maybe from Edelbrock, would make a huge difference, I just haven't made that leap yet. You can also add one of the "chips" available to help even more. The point being, if you add the cam then you have to change the stock TBI. Other than that, you should be happy with it. It's not necessary to do all the stroking crap. That's going to create more problems and cost a hell of a lot more money. A word of caution: be sure that your tranny is in tiptop shape. With the new power I took the truck around the block for a test drive, I just had to punch it and broke the tranny. That was another 1400 bucks. Good luck with it, the only other way out is to add a big block but that is another thread. Over and out.

Don't let the plant closing and layoff announcements mislead you. The majority of the plant closings were already in the works and many long overdue. One facility they just closed last year near me was the longest continuously operating factory in the states, open since the 19teens. The 3800 engine plant in Flint was announced to close. Everyone in and around that plant knew it was going to close for the last 2 years. And just by coincidence GM is going to open a new V6 plant across town just as the 3800 plant closes. Since the GM-UAW contract guarantees employment, they tend to just move people from one plant to another. They can't really 'lay off' workers, they put them in what's called the 'jobs bank' and still pay them. All of which makes GM the competitive monster that it is today!

( the above was not intended to infer/imply that Chevy/Ford/Dodge is any Better/Worse/Same as the other and in no way should be construed as encouraging preceding C/F debate.)

Safely entrenched in Chevy country (go north until you stop seeing rice burners, when you only see Chevy's and Ford's, go another 60 miles north until you only see Chevy's, then you're here).

I LOVE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.I FEEL WE SHOULD HAVE A LARGE GROUP HUG.I LOVE YOU MAN.

Originally posted by DennyW

I CAN FEEL IT WORKING.AHHH ISN'T THAT NICE.

Group hug.........hey, which one of you grabbed my ass!

30 A Rider ,stop while you are ahead.The older guys on the site will ban together against you ,and you have no chance of winning your arguement.Nothing against you ,just a newbie thing.Just let it go bro.


Anyways for you question,I have a suburban also and was thinking about a 383 with a RV cam.If you are staying with a 350 you will looking for low compresion,and a RV cam.

Originally posted by dcoffield
Group hug.........hey, which one of you grabbed my ass!

DO YOU LIKE MOVIES ABOUT GLADIATORS? I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I AM NOT GRABBING ANYONE'S ASS.

Originally posted by erik erikson
DO YOU LIKE MOVIES ABOUT GLADIATORS? I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I AM NOT GRABBING ANYONE'S ASS.

This from the guy who suggested the group thing.

Originally posted by dcoffield
This from the guy who suggested the group thing.

YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY DO YOU?O.K. I THINK WE HAVE REALLY CROSSED THE LINE NOW AND WE HAD BETTER TURN BACK.I STILL LOVE YOU MAN. L.O.L.

Turning back....lets talk about Suburbans!

WHEW, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE STEAM ENGINE THREAD WITH ALL THIS VENTING!!!

I GOTTA SAY THE POWER STROKE AND CHEVY 2500HD IS THE COMBO DREAMS IS MADE OF. CAN'T BUY IT, MAY AS WELL BUILD IT.

Now for the real thread, I know you didn't like the stroking idea but I think you should give it some more thought. I is so cheap to build and the extra torque is great. All you would have to do is buy the 190.00 dollar crank and stroker pistons and do everything else the same as you listed. You would pick up an extra 50 ft.lbs no problem. Call Comp Tech line for a cam and you will have a great pulling truck that won't break a sweat or your wallet for years to come. NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBES...can't be stressed enough when it comes to pulling torque.

You might want to check out GM Performance Parts HT 383 for some parts specification ideas -

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...101-P7C53.aspx

Also Speedomotive's HT 383 - http://www.speedomotive.com/

I've been researching the 383 idea for my '94 Suburban K1500, currently equipped with a TBI 350. I don't think dropping in a stroker crank is as simple as it sounds due to crank/skirt and rod/cam clearancing requirements, however; purchasing a built 383 short/long block seems competitive to rebuilding the 350.

I'm planning a late model 1pc main seal 4 bolt 383 short block with 9.1 - 9.6cr, iron Vortec heads, GMPP aluminum TBI Vortec manifold, Edelbrock shorty headers with EGR adapter, roller cam spec'd for computer control and torque to 4500-5000RPM, roller rockers, and a new larger throttle body and pump from Extreme EFI - http://www.xtremefi.com/

I will likely only port match the manifold to the heads and maybe clean up the heads around the valves.

Should pass emissions and be able to get over 400ftlbs from 2000 - 4500 rpm.

I too am still looking at alternatives though.

PS: I also have a Powerstroke Ford one ton 4x4 pickup and believe International Harvester beat GM's Suburban to the market with an SUV known as the Travelall.

Cheers!