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02-12-2006 12:27 AM #136
Originally posted by DennyW
I think, no matter what you build, if you do it right, it's gonna be the best it can, on power, and mileage, no matter what the size. But, you need to start at the power source, and work your way back to the end, to get it all right.
Besides, Big Blocks won't fit in everything.RAY
'69 Chevelle--385
'68 Camaro--Twin Turbo
'78 Luv--383
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02-12-2006 12:47 AM #137
In fact it will generally cost more to pull 350 hp out of a 302 than it will to pull that same power out of a 383.
yeah ok 350 out of a 302 is EASSSSSSY
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02-12-2006 12:53 AM #138
Originally posted by NTFDAY
I'm not sure about the la la, but I can confirm the oh, oh, oh, oh.
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02-12-2006 01:21 AM #139
Can some of you people not read?? No where in my original thread says get rid of your small block and build a big block. I also state that if you want to build a screaming 265-327, do it. It also says that it's your money, build what YOU want.
I never stated no where in my post that you couldn't make a small cube engine run. If you want to take a 283 and put 12.5:1 domes in it, do it. It will run, but I can do the same thing for the same money to a 383 SMALL BLOCK and make more torque/hp.
Most people that ask questions about putting a combo together don't have enough experience/knowledge to build a 8500 RPM 283 to out run a 6500 RPM 383.
This post was directed to the inexperienced engine builder. It was written so that inexperienced engine builders could consider the possibilities available.
Which engine will last longer?? A 500 hp 283 that needs to spin to 7500 to make it's power or a 500 hp 383 that needs to spin to 6200 RPM to make it's power.
One hp per cubic inch is a easy goal and will make a long lasting, dependable street engine. The more cubes, the better. In my book, 383 HP beats 283 HP any day.
LIKE I STATED BEFORE, IT'S YOUR MONEY, BUILD WHAT YOU WANT. Just remember, the more hp per cubic inch you build, the less dependable/streetable the engine becomes.Last edited by camaro_fever68; 02-12-2006 at 01:55 AM.
RAY
'69 Chevelle--385
'68 Camaro--Twin Turbo
'78 Luv--383
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02-12-2006 01:25 AM #140
Originally posted by gassersrule_196
In fact it will generally cost more to pull 350 hp out of a 302 than it will to pull that same power out of a 383.
yeah ok 350 out of a 302 is EASSSSSSYRAY
'69 Chevelle--385
'68 Camaro--Twin Turbo
'78 Luv--383
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02-12-2006 01:38 AM #141
Originally posted by RJ & CJ
So, just plain ol' wanting to does not count as a reason in your book? And what about, ohhhh, doing something new, something someone else has not. What about those guys in GN's running faster than many around with thier little turbo 6cyl motors? I believe CI's are the easier route as well, but I also feel that you, as a single individual, have no room to come in here and tell everyone that there are only three pre-set reasons as to why they should build anything below 350CI.
I personally, feel that you wasted time and money making this thread. You paid for the internet connection to do it with, and you wasted the time writing it. See how opinions differ?
Big cubes are cool, awesome and convenient, but being closed-minded and one sided is not.
I AM CURRENTLY BUILDING A 262 V-6 TO MAKE A LOT OF HP BUT THAT'S NOT THE ROUTE I WOULD RECOMMEND TO SOMEONE AS IT WILL NOT HOLD UP. IT WILL BE 14:1 AND RUNNING NITROUS, I KNOW IT WON'T HOLD UP AND I ACCEPT THAT.RAY
'69 Chevelle--385
'68 Camaro--Twin Turbo
'78 Luv--383
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02-12-2006 01:54 AM #142
Originally posted by lt1s10
for every cu. in. you put under the hood, there is extra cost all the way to the rear wheels to maintain it, and make it work. in other words it cost more to run a big block.RAY
'69 Chevelle--385
'68 Camaro--Twin Turbo
'78 Luv--383
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02-12-2006 06:26 AM #143
A 383 is a big block...Mopar has been building them for years. There are many more good engines in this world besides a chebbie!!!
One hp per cube is indeed practical. However Mike and I were responding to the responses saying the 500 and 600 cube hi performance big blocks destroy stock drivelines.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-12-2006 07:35 AM #144
/Last edited by pat mccarthy; 02-12-2006 at 10:11 AM.
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02-12-2006 08:29 AM #145
Originally posted by camaro_fever68
Can some of you people not read?? No where in my original thread says get rid of your small block and build a big block. I also state that if you want to build a screaming 265-327, do it. It also says that it's your money, build what YOU want.
I never stated no where in my post that you couldn't make a small cube engine run. If you want to take a 283 and put 12.5:1 domes in it, do it. It will run, but I can do the same thing for the same money to a 383 SMALL BLOCK and make more torque/hp.
Most people that ask questions about putting a combo together don't have enough experience/knowledge to build a 8500 RPM 283 to out run a 6500 RPM 383.
This post was directed to the inexperienced engine builder. It was written so that inexperienced engine builders could consider the possibilities available.
Which engine will last longer?? A 500 hp 283 that needs to spin to 7500 to make it's power or a 500 hp 383 that needs to spin to 6200 RPM to make it's power.
One hp per cubic inch is a easy goal and will make a long lasting, dependable street engine. The more cubes, the better. In my book, 383 HP beats 283 HP any day.
LIKE I STATED BEFORE, IT'S YOUR MONEY, BUILD WHAT YOU WANT. Just remember, the more hp per cubic inch you build, the less dependable/streetable the engine becomes.
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02-12-2006 08:34 AM #146
Good Morning, Erik!!!! how was your nap??? Wanna help me with some flow numbers, gonna start a new thread....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-12-2006 08:36 AM #147
Originally posted by DennyW
Maybe everyone has cabin fever, and are board.
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02-12-2006 08:43 AM #148
Originally posted by erik erikson
This was my point about 30 posts before.I am not sure what happened but we really went to town posting on anything and everything.I tried to tell people about the word cycles but it was lost along time ago.Please help us.
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02-12-2006 08:47 AM #149
Well, it was a long boring Saturday night and now we now that none of us will ever agree on what constitutes the perfect combination!!!! And that's the good news, without different opinions we would never have to "take it to the street" to prove a point!!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-12-2006 08:59 AM #150
Originally posted by Dave Severson
Well, it was a long boring Saturday night and now we now that none of us will ever agree on what constitutes the perfect combination!!!! And that's the good news, without different opinions we would never have to "take it to the street" to prove a point!!!!!!
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