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    327 What's your average water temp?

     



    Running between 180-200 but occasionally I get close to 230.. worried me a bit, do you think this is because when I replaced my water pump I added plain ol' water for the day? Maybe it boils faster/easier than anit-freeze and water mix? i will be mixing and trying again. What is average? I have a new radiator and an electric fan running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltidwell
    Running between 180-200 but occasionally I get close to 230.. worried me a bit, do you think this is because when I replaced my water pump I added plain ol' water for the day? Maybe it boils faster/easier than anit-freeze and water mix? i will be mixing and trying again. What is average? I have a new radiator and an electric fan running.

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    OF COURSE IT WILL RUN SOME WHAT HOTTER AT IDLE.... AND I THINK YOU SHOULD RE- EVALUATE THE TEMPERTURE AFTER YOU PUT THE CORRECT FLUIDS IN.YOU PUT PLEASE HELP ME TOO:IM TRING TO BUILD ME A HOMEMADE FAN SHROUD FOR MY S 10 V8 TRUCK ANY ONE HAVE ANY IDEALS?
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    your water shouldn't affect that, if u have str8 water that boils at 212* F, and then u add a 7# rad cap ( standard for most anything older ), for every 1 PSI of preassure, the boiling point raises by 3* F so that's 21* more so your looking at 233* F, which if you get to 230* F as is, your almost overheating, because when the coolant boils, that's what overheating is. ither change all hoses and go with a 10-13# cap or get a cooler thermostat. if you have a 180* stat, it will be fully open at 195*, a 160 will be open at 185*
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    Well I changed the fluids today and found that it made a "little" difference. Around town after a half an hour or so she runs about 210-220, on the freeway after about 10 minutes she was down to 175-180. This tells me not enough air is getting through, but I am not sure what i can do about it. I have an electric fan on my radiator, how much of a temp difference would I see if I add a shroud? Because I live in the DC area I need to be able to sit in a 30-45min traffic jam without overheating, any ideas?

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    a shroud makes a big difference.... also depends on how many CFM/RPMs your electric fan puts out....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltidwell
    Well I changed the fluids today and found that it made a "little" difference. Around town after a half an hour or so she runs about 210-220, on the freeway after about 10 minutes she was down to 175-180. This tells me not enough air is getting through, but I am not sure what i can do about it. I have an electric fan on my radiator, how much of a temp difference would I see if I add a shroud? Because I live in the DC area I need to be able to sit in a 30-45min traffic jam without overheating, any ideas?

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    I would be curious what cfm the fan is pulling or maybe the amp draw, I have a 327 with a griffin alum. rad and dual spall 11" fans 3000 cfm and runs very cool. A lot of electric fans are over stated as to true cfm my dual spal fans draw about 24 amps It probably take around 18amps to get 2700 cfm out of a 16 in electric fan. You may not be moving enough air Ed ke6bnl

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    If I'm not mistaken, antifreeze is just that, antifreeze (and anticorrosives). Water actually disipates heat better than antifreeze.

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    no antifreeze dissapates heat better than water, but only to a certain point, as long as you've got a proper mix it will... the way to really make your cooling system cool better though is put water wetter in instead of antifreeze, i did it on my car and she dropped 20 degrees on running temp
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    I run 50/50 af/h20 with hi-ouput water pump, a 10" pusher (always on), and a 16" puller electric (thermostaticially controled) on my 34 (350 ci/350hp) and it normally runs in warm weather at about 200. No fancy radiator, aluminum or otherwise, not even a big name unit like Walker or Griffin, etc., just an old radiator with trans cooler in the bottom. I can sit (had to recently) and idle for an hour and it goes no higher than 210. Only shroud is that which is build around the puller, not a full coverage shroud. So far for the past 17 years very few water related problems. Hope it stays that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesals
    no antifreeze dissapates heat better than water, but only to a certain point, as long as you've got a proper mix it will... the way to really make your cooling system cool better though is put water wetter in instead of antifreeze, i did it on my car and she dropped 20 degrees on running temp

    Well I am going to try the water wetter first.. for $7.95 a bottle it seems worth a try. Next I will try a fan pushing more cfm, then a shroud.

    Sound about right? I need to do something, unless I am crusing at 55' she gets hot (210-220) quickly (30-35 min around town)... no traffic, just regular lights.

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    also what intake and headers are you running? and base and total timing
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    I have a dual set of flex-a-lite pushers fans mounted on front of my radiator. Cruising the motor gets no hotter than 180, but ideling it starts to creep up to 200 and that where I have the fans set to go on. They draw 22 amps and run for about 30 seconds to bring the temperature back down to 180. Works great.
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    Well.. looks like I will be needing to try something else. The Water wetter did help a bit, just takes longer to overheat now than before. I am going to try a new 175 thermostat, if that doesnt fix the problem a new electric fan, then a shroud. Thanks for the help guys. If you can think of anything else let me know.

    ~Lincoln

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    From reading your thread it looks like you have an airflow problem rather than a coolant or pump problem, rather than muck arround with electric fans see if you can get a belt driven fan and shroud in there
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    You could get some of that stuff that you dump in the radiator. I think its alcohol and something else mixed together. It's supposed to lower the temperature a little bit. I used some in my V8 S10 because I always had problems with overheating when sitting. It worked pretty well I think it dropped the highest temp I had like 10 or 15 degrees.
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