Yeah, I don't know squat about automatics.....Always been a gear banger myself.... Just looked, TCI sells a complete 700R4 with manual or automatic shifting and all the goodies for about $1600. Tranny guy I talked too (he did the 350 in the old race car last year) sez he can do a 700 for about $1200 with the converter that is ok for 450 horse. Guess that must be an ok deal, huh?>?? Turbo Hydro's are a heck of a lot less, but I think I need the overdrive...