Thread: 283 Hp/torque Question

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The problem with building the 283 you want involves streetability. The more horsepower adders you put into it, the less streetable it will become. A 283 with 325 hp will have a very lumpy cam, no bottom end, and you will fight it at every stop light, and on top of that, your mileage will be crap. Now, to get 325 hp out of a 350 would be a piece of cake, and you would have as much streetability as your stock 283. Some things just cannot be, and you have to be willing to give up something in order to get something. On top of that, a 350 will be less expensive to build. To me, there is no question what to do.

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Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

hasnt anyone ever heard of the 402 stroker kit for 283's ????????

Scooter,Scooter,now why would we want to put a stroker kit in a 40 year old 283 block.
Yes,I remember dad talking about trying to do this back in the early 70's.
I think he might of mentioned this back even in the 80's.

no erick erick erick what ever happened to diversity? you just dont belive me do you? these 40 year old parts still work for me and ALOT of drag racers/hot rodders 90% of the people at our local track run 60's 70's iron head,s when gm makes a new 283 i will be happy but guess what, there not going to! and until aftermarket heads are well under a thousand they are still not going to be cheaper then old ones fixed up. how many times do i have to turn blue to do this! and about them not being streetable whoa where did that come from? my dads old motor that he had when i was younger was a 301 with cast 11:1's 291 heads 1.94 1.6 ran 13.1 very consistently with a holley 600 and it was the most streetable car ive ever ridden in! i am saying that 325 in a 283 is streetable yes! and erick, if you going to keep complainging to me about cubes and power go build a dang big block and quit yelping :P and youg uys must be driving some ehavy cars to be complaing about torque like you do!

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

no erick erick erick what ever happened to diversity? you just dont belive me do you? these 40 year old parts still work for me and ALOT of drag racers/hot rodders 90% of the people at our local track run 60's 70's iron head,s when gm makes a new 283 i will be happy but guess what, there not going to! and until aftermarket heads are well under a thousand they are still not going to be cheaper then old ones fixed up. how many times do i have to turn blue to do this! and about them not being streetable whoa where did that come from? my dads old motor that he had when i was younger was a 301 with cast 11:1's 291 heads 1.94 1.6 ran 13.1 very consistently with a holley 600 and it was the most streetable car ive ever ridden in! i am saying that 325 in a 283 is streetable yes! and erick, if you going to keep complainging to me about cubes and power go build a dang big block and quit yelping :P and youg uys must be driving some ehavy cars to be complaing about torque like you do!

I think you need to go for a ride in one of my customers cars that has a 383 that makes over 515 foot pounds of torque at 4,000 rpm's and 510 hp at 6,000 rpm's all on pump gas.
That car will give you a good idea of what a 383 will pull like.

I'll chime in on why I built my 283. It is what I had! It is a std bore 58-60 impala block with steel crank. Built in 1969 before i was born and parked in 1975 then I bought the 55 - three years ago. I had the complete engine, I just put new rings in to start with. It has just enough power for what I want which aint much, but.

Was looking at the new Hot rod (or one of them) mags the other day and was reading the top engine builders challange, didn't read the details but our poor old SBC's came in somthing like 23rd place with somthing like 505 hp. The top 10 or better were all SBF 433's with over 700hp on the #1 build. Like I said, i didn't read into the article but assumed it was a budgeted contest to see who could make the most power. BBC was in there somewhere in the top 12 i think, but SBF's took top spots. It may have also been some cube rules to since I did not see anything like the 454 or larger BBC or any big cube BBF.

They did not build any 283's.

Originally Posted by chevydrivin

I'll chime in on why I built my 283. It is what I had! It is a std bore 58-60 impala block with steel crank. Built in 1969 before i was born and parked in 1975 then I bought the 55 - three years ago. I had the complete engine, I just put new rings in to start with. It has just enough power for what I want which aint much, but.

Was looking at the new Hot rod (or one of them) mags the other day and was reading the top engine builders challange, didn't read the details but our poor old SBC's came in somthing like 23rd place with somthing like 505 hp. The top 10 or better were all SBF 433's with over 700hp on the #1 build. Like I said, i didn't read into the article but assumed it was a budgeted contest to see who could make the most power. BBC was in there somewhere in the top 12 i think, but SBF's took top spots. It may have also been some cube rules to since I did not see anything like the 454 or larger BBC or any big cube BBF.

They did not build any 283's.

I would not believe everything you read in those "comic" books.

Yup, most of the articles I've seen in the rags the last few years should start with "Once upon a time" like all good fairy tales. I think the information available on the internet and through sites such as CHR have turned a lot of the car rags into little more then fireplace fodder.... I guess the powers that be at the publishers seem to believe that whoever makes the most exhorbitant claim or verbally drools over the latest fad the most is going to be the best selling mag!!! Hot Rod Magazine used to be THE source for information and specifications, now they seem to sell out to the highest bidder for endorsement of the latest trick of the month club parts that come out!!!!

ive ridden in ls6 454 chevelles, 442's, and buicks, those are torqe monsters and they were fun, no sbc can compare to a big block with the same amout of money torque wise, isnt that why we created big blocks but hey im always up for a ride in a hot rod, no matter the motor! cause its still fun where its a slant 6 or BBC

i have a 283 bored 0.60 with tbi, 700r4 in a 65 c10 it has pletty of power. It out run's my brother's 360 easy. Go with the 283 be different.

Originally Posted by chevys283

i have a 283 bored 0.60 with tbi, 700r4 in a 65 c10 it has pletty of power. It out run's my brother's 360 easy. Go with the 283 be different.

Would that 360 be a Mopar,a Ford 360 or a 350 Chevy with an over bore????

probably all of thee above !

I disagree with the fact the a high H.P. 283 so to speak is not a streetable engine. I do run a 283 that puts out around 315 h.p. and I drive it whenever I can. It runs well and is very dependable. Does have a nice sounding cam, mileage varies 13-17 in a 55 Chevy(M-21--3:70 gears) depending on how I drive it. I built the motor 13 years ago and has been trouble free and runs with the 350's out there. All depends on what you want. Could have built a 350 but I had the 283 at the time. Would probably do it again. Great discussion though.

I do run a 283 that puts out around 315 h.p.

I like a 283 too.
It also is what I currently have to work with.
Please post more specs on your engine.

Thanks - Bert

it was a dodge 360 with a 4 barrel in a d100 with a 4 speed A833.