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    Cam Advice Needed By Experts Please

     



    Hello again everyone.. Well, I have my car running okay, but I need another opinion..Have a modified 350 in a vette. When I say modified, I mean just that, not worked. Here it is.
    Standard Bore 350 w/76cc chamber heads(smog)1981
    I installed Headers, and true duals
    I had the q-jet properly rebuilt by the Carb Shop
    HEI ignition
    and the cam.. COMP CAM #12-231-2
    This Cam was picked because of the weight of the car and the slight mods
    It is 432-452 lift and 206-214 at .050 and Lobe sep is 111
    I also had 2.56 rear gears.. With this it ran okay
    I installed 3.73 gears now, and there is a huge difference

    Now my question it...Would it make a HUGE difference if I installed a set of
    305 HO heads with 57cc chambers to increase the compression? I think the cam needs more compression, and I am not into spending big bucks on this car..Would it do anything, or is it a waste of money? I don't race the car, but I would like it to get up and go out of the hole. It is close, but not there yet.
    Also, it is an automatic th350..Did I pick the wrong cam, or is it what it is?
    With the stock heads, I thik the compression is something like 7.8-1
    Please get back to me with some opinions. Thanks

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    you can get nice iron heads from pbm that would help at a very good price that would help on your cr i would try them before the 305 .but did a 350 with 305 heads for a customer that what he wanted to use them. the cr and dynamic cr was border line for prem fuel. what intake do you have on this engine?

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    The intake is just a alum dual plane vette intake for a q-jet. Stock with the engine. I guess the question I was getting at is would I notice the type of difference that I did with the rear gears by adding more compression to make the cam work with the 305 heads? Again, it isn't a race car. I doubt it goes above 4500 rpms ever, but I want it to come out of the hole.

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    well Cr would help but if you went to a cam like on a lsa of 108to106 and abit more dura@050 and CR with the smaller 305 heads i would do a bowl job and 3+angle valve job .but i would use the PPM heads much better heads with CR and cam should be a runner. and you would get more out of them then a 305 head.

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    What cam would you suggest? Do you think I picked the wrong cam? The cam I chose is a 4x4 cam. Reason being I wanted lots of bottom end and the range was 600-4600 rpm. I thought it made sense at the time, and It does get up and go, but I think it should have more balls than it does. I mean, I think I should be able to get it and nail it, and light up the tires. Right now if I nail it, it spins for about 1 second and that is it. I work for Lexus, and I would bet money that a IS350 would walk by it all day long. Now we can't have that..

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    low cr and heavy car . it will be tough to move it. the cam you have is ok have used one like your cam in a truck it was ok . you should work on the dist curve and see what that will do. try to re curve it

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    I did work with that a little. I have an HEI and I took it apart, cleaned it up and installed the lightest springs that came with the accel type kit. There were 3 types of springs. The vacuum advance works. Have it set at 10 btdc at idle, and it is all in around 2800 at 36 degrees. I have played with it, but it has been A long time since I really set up a HEI dist or timing for that matter. Do you think I should use a vacuum guage? Give me your input on how to correctly set up the timing if you don't mind.

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    I did work with that a little. I have an HEI and I took it apart, cleaned it up and installed the lightest springs that came with the accel type kit. There were 3 types of springs. The vacuum advance works. Have it set at 10 btdc at idle, and it is all in around 2800 at 36 degrees. I have played with it, but it has been A long time since I really set up a HEI dist or timing for that matter. Do you think I should use a vacuum guage? Give me your input on how to correctly set up the timing if you don't mind...Do you thin I am wasting money with my head idea? What do you suggest I do to help this heavy car along??

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    you are not that far off i think on the curve i could pick you a different cam on a 106 would make more low end and mid but you would need more cr you may want to give compcam a call

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    Hey Pat, can we get him to tell us whether that was 10 btdc with or with out vacuum hooked up. Something on the post didn't seem right. I like the suggestion of cam advice, it seems a little factor of timing he said he has wasn't quite right.
    What if the "Hokey Pokey" is what it's really all about?

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    The timing is at 10 btdc at idle with the vacuum advance unhooked and plugged. Then when I plug it in and give it gas and dial the light to 36, at around 2500-2800 I am at 36 degrees. Does that help you out at all? I think I am in the ball park. The fact of the matter might be that it is a heavy car, and the engine just isn't worked enough. The cam might be too small, but I didn't want to go the other direction and over cam. I did that in the past(15 years ago) and it sure sounded great, but what a dog.ha ha. I guess as you get older you figure out that you should make the engine trans rear all work together, and also know what you want to do with the car.

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    i never said the cam was to small .you do want more ? then i would go a different way the heads and cr and different cam on a 106/108 lsa will make it run better. will you be happy with that ? that would be hard for me to say

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    What do you think you would do with the situation I just explained? If it were you, and you wanted to go faster, what parts would you put together. Also,thank you for the help, I am not trying to be difficult, I just don't want to do it wrong, so I need all the info I can get.

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