Thread: A SBC build

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how would i know about your chassis first of all i'm not a chassis guy... but you tell me to get out from behind the dyno were have you been??? the stock suspenions all motor class is running 8.20-30s. you can run on a true 10.5 slick no w's allowed. the drag radail class i run are 8.20-8.30 and the biggest tire is 295/60-15 i'm on m/t. the chevelle is a backhalf ladder bar car. the front is all stock other then drag shocks. full chassis car are cool but i'm into street cars. hell marty crane went 7.95 on a all stock 93 mustang suspension other then just bolting on stronger parts and a cage. as for pics i have alot of 35mm pics don't do much good..

if you what pics and video come to a track when we are running heads up classes. hell 3 weeks ago steve morris showed up with he's 4000# wagon and went 8.07 procharged 572.. drove the car 150mile to the track went 8.07 and drove home..

Yeah well, my bad. I'm new to this hot rod stuff....Just got started about 40 years ago... I always thought there was more to it then horsepower, guess I was wrong. But then, there are many other forms of motorsport other then drag racing, maybe that's what got me confused??? Guess I've probably been involved in too many things other then drag racing..... As for drag racing, I'll have to take your word for it, my experience never went beyond a top alcohol dragster.....

PS, but that was many years ago, back when top alcohol was only running 5.80's... Got to excuse my age!!!

Stock suspension is cheap man, gives you more money for "horsepower", but watch out if you break traction and get a little sideways,,,,,good luck getting it back straight at around 100 MPH...................................

Originally Posted by chevydrivin

Stock suspension is cheap man, gives you more money for "horsepower", but watch out if you break traction and get a little sideways,,,,,good luck getting it back straight at around 100 MPH...................................

Good point. Also, the stock suspension is engineered for about 2 to 3 hundred horsepower. Much over that is stressing it far beyond it's designed usage and subject to parts breakage....normally at a very inopportune time!!!!! (aka, sideways at 100 mph )

ya your can get alot good info from those top alcohol dragsters for street cars and heads up street racing on stock suspension. i see your point of being in it for 40yrs you got stuck someware in the 70s. thats total crap stock suspenions are designed for 200-300hp that's some funny right there. i guess we need to pull million of vette's mustangs etc etc.. man the 70s mout have been hard on you

Originally Posted by 500caddy

if you what pics and video come to a track when we are running heads up classes. hell 3 weeks ago steve morris showed up with he's 4000# wagon and went 8.07 procharged 572.. drove the car 150mile to the track went 8.07 and drove home..

I much prefer using my trailer, never had enough room in a tubbed and caged car, let alone a tube chassis car, for a tool box, spares, barbeque grille, lawn chairs, etc.... Besides, out here in the sticks it's a long walk home if the car breaks.....

Originally Posted by 500caddy

ya your can get alot good info from those top alcohol dragsters for street cars and heads up street racing on stock suspension.

Yeah, just shows how little I know about going fast I guess. I'll defer to the experts.....

dave, your starting to bore the hell out of me. you don't build engines and you have someone build them for you, you couldn't even tell me what the hell all the numbers on a cam card meen or how they come up with the numbers. from want i see you use the phone to build your stuff.. just think this all started because you haven't clue how cams work.. here give us the answer to this ivo 20, ivc 62, evo 69, evc21. give us the duration at .050 exh and int, intake center, exh center, overlap, lsa.. and don't use your decktop dyno. show me how you came up with the numbers . good luck..

Like I said, I'll defer to the experts....I'm sure you're the best there is.....and horsepower is the only thing that counts.... I don't claim to be the expert, you seem to be the one doing that.... But anyway, you are quite entertaining!!!!

PS--I don't have a desktop dyno, I call my engine man for that, too....

you don't find something wrong with you giving advice about cams when you don't even know how they work???? how do you sleep at night knowing that you steered good people the wrong way.. people trust that your giving good info and know what your talking about. almost 10000 post geez i can only think of the info you put out there... well good luck dave keep up the good work.....

I would trust my hard earned money on Daves advice any day of the week.
I have never owned a big cam car,but what I have done is read alot and payed attention to those who have done it before and what those who have done had to say about there exsperiance.
I also try to get a feel for the poster,by the type of questions asked,i.e. is he asking advanced questions or begginer questions.Then I offer advice to trigger research and conversation .
I simply stated that he has to understand that one component ties into the other and also affects reliability among numerous other things.

500 cad, you turned this into a max bumpstick ,7000 rpm stock rodded debate about your skills and cam exspertise,then attacked everyone elses advice like they were telling the guy to weld his pistons on the rods or something ,instead of offering your take up on the table like the rest of us and waiting for the poster to ask more questions or ignore the offering of advice,when some one posts after you with other info or info thats not exactly like your vision,its not a attack on you or your advice ,its simply just another offering or point of view.

Originally Posted by 500caddy

you don't find something wrong with you giving advice about cams when you don't even know how they work???? how do you sleep at night knowing that you steered good people the wrong way.. people trust that your giving good info and know what your talking about. almost 10000 post geez i can only think of the info you put out there... well good luck dave keep up the good work.....

This is whats called a totalist mindset,or the old, your for me or against me "attitude".
No one ever questioned that your logic or cam recomendations would not make the most horse power or could be done.
What they did not do is agree you knew the only path thru the woods,that set off your totalist syndrome and terets took over in a post you made in a public forum for the entire world to see what a disrespectful rude person sayes to try to hurt someone when they feel threatened by normal human interaction and cannot exspress themselves properly,so a person of that nature gets derogitory towards another hoping to shift the spotlight off of his syndrome onto another persons shoulders so as to better hide his own shame......................

Yes, I can run a degree wheel. Yes, I do assemble my own engines. My only advice on the cam, as it usually is, was to call the cam companies tech line.... I believe that is well within my limited knowledge to make such a recomendation... If you'd care to look at my posts, you would find they offer accurate advice and as for the post count, that means I've been here a long time. Finally, I sleep just fine at night, but thanks for your concern....

Hey caddy thanks for the advice but no thanks, the recomendations you have made have completly turned me away from your ideas. I mean come on who's ever heard of a .700 lift cam in something like I am building? And you recomend I sell my .120 domes and buy some flat tops!!!Didn't I say everything was balanced............so you would have me sell my domes for a loss and buy new flat tops, pay for having them pressed on (and hope they didn't accidently break oneof the domes or new ones), then rebalance everthing and have that money lost too????Come on.............I am not a Dumb A$$ but I do know a few things about engines, am 37 yrs old and built my first 400SBC by myself at age 15. (and yes it probably did have the wrong cam in it)
I have a recomendation for you if you want to run all over a thread.............Start your own thread and title it somthing like this............."LOOK AT ME" or "LOOK WHAT I CAN DO" OR "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Did you say you grind your own cams? and you could grind me one? yeah ok the big companys are no good, they are multi million dollar companys like Edelbrock, holley, Comp, Lunati ect...ect...ect....and you think you can do better than them? Dude start your own busniness, if you can do what you claim then you could be making a ton of money.
How about some of those pics someone asked you for.....oh all you have is 35 mm, when did 35mm go out, i thought everyone had a digital camera and you claim someone else is stuck in the 70's...............So you don't have a scanner you could scan the pics?????? or have you spent all your funds on horsepower!!!!!!!!!!