Thread: Single Carb Hise Rise Question
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02-23-2008 06:24 PM #1
Single Carb Hise Rise Question
My 357 small block (in version 2) is going from 2.02 462's to 2.05 Canfield aluminums, (flowed), and the cam is going to .600" in the solid roller cam area. I found a vintage jewel today in the form of a Edelbrock TR1YX, single 4 tunnel ram. Will this make a killer addition to my ride over my old Tarantula?"oohh...thats gonna leave a mark!"
1997 s-10, 357 C.I., 350 turbo, speedpro 11:1,Comp Cam custom grind mech. roller, Canfield heads, 1.6 roller rockers, edelbrock tm-1, holley 750sp, Hooker Headers, MSD, 3K B&M stall, 4:11 gears
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02-23-2008 06:31 PM #2
If you plan on living in the upper rpm band then youll be fine.Friends dont let friends drive fords!
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02-23-2008 06:44 PM #3
this is my new bracket car..err..truck."oohh...thats gonna leave a mark!"
1997 s-10, 357 C.I., 350 turbo, speedpro 11:1,Comp Cam custom grind mech. roller, Canfield heads, 1.6 roller rockers, edelbrock tm-1, holley 750sp, Hooker Headers, MSD, 3K B&M stall, 4:11 gears
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02-23-2008 06:49 PM #4
is that the old shoe box tunnel ram??? them were not to hot if so?? they also had a bad rep for blowing up .i have been told. i did see a box plenum that did . fuel laid in the plenum and K BOOMIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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02-23-2008 07:00 PM #5
Meybe Ebay is a good place for it. Thanks Pat. But as long as we're yakking about it, is there a way to use epoxy to build up the low spots if any and help to make sure you don't have any puddling?Last edited by jimmyjeep; 02-23-2008 at 07:02 PM.
"oohh...thats gonna leave a mark!"
1997 s-10, 357 C.I., 350 turbo, speedpro 11:1,Comp Cam custom grind mech. roller, Canfield heads, 1.6 roller rockers, edelbrock tm-1, holley 750sp, Hooker Headers, MSD, 3K B&M stall, 4:11 gears
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02-23-2008 08:33 PM #6
I looked at the floor of this thing, and its really curved down from the center towards both ends, so there is absolutely no way gas can puddle here. I understand that was a prob with the very first ones, so I think we are gonna be safe. Here is a pic:
"oohh...thats gonna leave a mark!"
1997 s-10, 357 C.I., 350 turbo, speedpro 11:1,Comp Cam custom grind mech. roller, Canfield heads, 1.6 roller rockers, edelbrock tm-1, holley 750sp, Hooker Headers, MSD, 3K B&M stall, 4:11 gears
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02-23-2008 09:29 PM #7
I could be way wrong on this, but manifold technology has progressed so far from the days these were popular that it might be a backward step for you. If you are building a race engine you probably want it to perform to the max possible, so I would think one of todays manifolds would be a better choice.
If you were building a period piece, like an old time gasser, that manifold would be super cool, but on a race only motor it might not give the results you are looking for,
JMO,
Don
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02-24-2008 06:04 AM #8
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
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02-24-2008 08:07 AM #9
If you have to have the look, keep the ram and put port fuel injection in it. There are many places who would modify the intake for you.
Total cost ~$3k though .......................
KitzJon Kitzmiller, MSME, PhD EE, 32 Ford Hiboy Roadster, Cornhusker frame, Heidts IFS/IRS, 3.50 Posi, Lone Star body, Lone Star/Kitz internal frame, ZZ502/550, TH400
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02-24-2008 08:14 AM #10
My experience with them old puddle rams is that they work great.....betweend 6500 and 8500.... With all the good stuff on the market today don't think I'd bother with one of them unless nostalgia was the only reason for the build and practical performance on the street was not a consideration.....
But it would look great all polished up and sitting on the shelf with the trophies, broken pistons, etc.......Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-24-2008 08:15 AM #11
Well one more question before I ebay it. Is there any instance where this manifold would perform well. I mean it had to in its time. I would just like to know before I put it up for grabs. Thanks guys!"oohh...thats gonna leave a mark!"
1997 s-10, 357 C.I., 350 turbo, speedpro 11:1,Comp Cam custom grind mech. roller, Canfield heads, 1.6 roller rockers, edelbrock tm-1, holley 750sp, Hooker Headers, MSD, 3K B&M stall, 4:11 gears
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02-24-2008 08:17 AM #12
[QUOTE=Dave Severson]My experience with them old puddle rams you got that rightIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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02-24-2008 08:20 AM #13
Originally Posted by jimmyjeepIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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02-24-2008 08:26 AM #14
K, nuff said. its a gonner. thanks guys. There is one going on ebay for 212.00 right with 14 bids , so I'll let em know they have a second chance to own their own non performance delivering and possibly exploding hunk of aluminum. LOL. Staying with the old T-ranntula !!"oohh...thats gonna leave a mark!"
1997 s-10, 357 C.I., 350 turbo, speedpro 11:1,Comp Cam custom grind mech. roller, Canfield heads, 1.6 roller rockers, edelbrock tm-1, holley 750sp, Hooker Headers, MSD, 3K B&M stall, 4:11 gears
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02-24-2008 08:30 AM #15
I think that's an excellent choice, Jimmy......Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
Welcome to CHR. I think that you need to hook up your vacuum advance. At part throttle when cruising you have less air and fuel in each cylinder, and the air-fuel mixture is not as densely packed...
MSD 8360 distributor vacuum advance