Thread: Streetable HP?

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Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

whats wrong with camel humps 75-200 bucks and 600 holley-20-50 bucks

I am right there with you on this . There is no feeling like . building a SB Chevy with factory ported iron heads . And good used parts that will walk all over a high dollar built SB chevy . Then you can say I built it . And I told you so . COOL

Originally Posted by kitz

Howdy Richard.

RCS looks like you walked right into the right stuff here all the way around. Go for it.

Kitz

Howdy right back to ya Kitz.
I really enjoy puttin' this stuff together. I'm retired now and have cut back on my personal projects, but I get to stay in the game doin' this.

Tango, yes there are other combos that would work too. It's just that the #11 fills the bill at 9.15:1 so that you could run junk pump gas with the aluminum heads and tight squish and the fact that it makes max torque at 3,500 rpm's. To my way of thinkin', it's the ultimate street-friendly motor.

Scooter, you'd be down 100 ft/lbs or more with camel hump heads. In my opinion, GO BIG OR GO HOME. Look at some of the other combos using different heads. No comparison to the superiority of the AFR heads.

Well, let me know when you get a set of cast iron factory smogger engine heads to outperform a set of state of the art AFR heads!!!!! Doubter that I am, guess I'd prefer to see the flow bench data instead of some "once upon a time" street racing stories though...

When I want parts that are a bit more money then I can afford to spend I either have to wait longer or work harder to get the money to buy them.... Never have understood the "gotta have it now" mentality.....whatever happened to patience???? I don't see any reason to settle for something less then what you really want to have... Saying they're too expensive is just an excuse, not a reason....

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Well, let me know when you get a set of cast iron factory smogger engine heads to outperform a set of state of the art AFR heads!!!!! Doubter that I am, guess I'd prefer to see the flow bench data instead of some "once upon a time" street racing stories though...

When I want parts that are a bit more money then I can afford to spend I either have to wait longer or work harder to get the money to buy them.... Never have understood the "gotta have it now" mentality.....whatever happened to patience???? I don't see any reason to settle for something less then what you really want to have... Saying they're too expensive is just an excuse, not a reason....

I agree wholeheartedly Dave. When I was buying parts for the T, my budget was $50 per week. I wanted Aldan Eagle coilovers for the front IFS and wouldn't settle for any less. They were $500, so I had to wait 10 weeks to get them. But man oh man, when you get those extreme quality pieces in your hand, it sure puts a grin on your face.
"The bitter taste of poor quality remains long after the sweet taste of low cost is forgotten"

Originally Posted by techinspector1

I agree wholeheartedly Dave. When I was buying parts for the T, my budget was $50 per week. I wanted Aldan Eagle coilovers for the front IFS and wouldn't settle for any less. They were $500, so I had to wait 10 weeks to get them. But man oh man, when you get those extreme quality pieces in your hand, it sure puts a grin on your face.
"The bitter taste of poor quality remains long after the sweet taste of low cost is forgotten"

I concur... Think we must of went to the same school......

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

I concur... Think we must of went to the same school......

I can tell you many guys PM me and ask about budget building there engines . And a Lot of them guys have very little money to work with . I do feel bad for them and even send some of them parts I have Free . And your statement about them working harder to get more money is out of Line . I have killed my self at work . And after paying bills thats what you have to work with-for your Hot Rod . And for the Tech guy he told me he is not an engine man . He is a track tech so how do you think he can port a set of heads ? He would have to buy some ! Car building is not only for the Rich !

maybe because id rather be racing then sitting at home waiting. i only raced for $ one time. it cost 3 times as much to race in that class, it didnt pay out very well, and everybody has $$$$$ into electronics. im fine with a trophy and some pride and satisfaction. and since our track is long gone history now i have all the time in the world. which is why im going to sell the car because i was scrapin by to go racing here. let alone drive 250+ miles to the nearest track! .........so much for my leave of abesence.......

Originally Posted by tango

I can tell you many guys PM me and ask about budget building there engines . And a Lot of them guys have very little money to work with . I do feel bad for them and even send some of them parts I have Free . And your statement about them working harder to get more money is out of Line . I have killed my self at work . And after paying bills thats what you have to work with-for your Hot Rod . And for the Tech guy he told me he is not an engine man . He is a track tech so how do you think he can port a set of heads ? He would have to buy some ! Car building is not only for the Rich !

I never said or implied it was only for the rich... My point was that patience and saving money for the parts you really want is indeed a valid plan...

My statement did not suggest anyone work harder... It sez that this is what I do...

I would only request that you read my posts the way they're written and not read things into them....

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

maybe because id rather be racing then sitting at home waiting. i only raced for $ one time. it cost 3 times as much to race in that class, it didnt pay out very well, and everybody has $$$$$ into electronics. im fine with a trophy and some pride and satisfaction. and since our track is long gone history now i have all the time in the world. which is why im going to sell the car because i was scrapin by to go racing here. let alone drive 250+ miles to the nearest track! .........so much for my leave of abesence.......

When bracket racing, I prefer to run the non-electronic classes, got no use for the crossover delay boxes.....

All I was saying is that if you wanna race with the big boys and run the good parts, you have to be willing to do what you have to do to achieve that goal. Same as most anything you want to achieve in life....

sometimes we settle for what is good enuff .. people ask why i still have ported old iron heads on my 429 when there are many good aftermarket aluminum heads out now .. i just dont think 50 hp is worth 2500 bucks .. but a class racer " pro stock - nascar - etc .. would give that any day for 5 hp ...

Originally Posted by HOSS429

sometimes we settle for what is good enuff .. people ask why i still have ported old iron heads on my 429 when there are many good aftermarket aluminum heads out now .. i just dont think 50 hp is worth 2500 bucks .. but a class racer " pro stock - nascar - etc .. would give that any day for 5 hp ...

Them Pro Stock boys probably spend a mil during the off season trying to find another 5 horse!!!!! Since Ford came out with the SCJ-John Kasse heads, the outdated CJ heads are going for cheap...when you can find a set.... Scored a set of them that were fresh and had been on a spare motor for one of the big boys when there team updated.....The guy I got them from said they had updated their heads with a net gain in hp of 7!!!!! I just smiled and took my $700 set of "outdated" heads home!!!! The pro racers really operate on a whole different planet then the rest of us!!!!!!



Hey!!! I do still have a mid eighties 460 EFI long block....using it as a mock up engine in the Ranchero now but I sure would let it go reasonable if somone needed it!!!!

Originally Posted by DennyW

Dave, I sure wish you would show some pictures of some of the cool stuff you have laying around ? Since you have so many projects, and parts, maybe you might be interested in selling some of them to help out other members ? If you got something I would want, and wanted to sell, I might be interested as well.

Those big boys don't have to worry about expense to much when updating. That has to be like shopping with a limitless credit card, 0 interest.

They're on the Comet drag car.... When we get the cars out and start prepping things this spring I'm going to get some pics....got to have new stuff for sponsors and perspective sponsors to try to get more $$$$$!!!!!! I would love to find a set to put on Rog's T-Bird, too..... It just has some mildly reworked Edelbrock heads now.... Remember the dyno sheet I posted on the Comet with 500 rwhp???? The "outdated" heads I bought for it is what brought it up to that....previous year's engine was about 30 less at the wheels...

Yeah, sure would be fun to build a car using the same budget some of them guys have, huh??????

If I could find a set then we would sell the Edelbrock's if they would do someone any good.... They are excellent heads, but would probably be better on a big horse street engine, not quite up to the task for racing, we still need another 1/10 on the T-Bird......

Too much dang "down time" this winter to really get out and search.....getting old really sucks!!!!

What else you looking for? Might be some stuff around here......

the price of heads keep going down .how good are they ? the patriot performance heads for as-cast are 460.a pair .so why would you play with heads that are old casting that could be well used ? i have got in to this before i have a machine shop would be happy to reguide put new seats in .cut out for bigger valves. mill and do a 3 angle valve job on a old worn out set of heads .now the new head s could need a tune in on all the stuff i listed but still your getting a better flowing head .i still think your going to have more in old gm casting then a new set it is a time and money thing. if your time is worth nothing then stones sand paper and other supplys will add up . you still will have to cart them off to the machine shop .when done you have a old out dated heads that could flow not any better then they did stock with a very good valve job i still think this is were alot of power is on how the seat is formed and the valve flows and the short side radius of the port along with the chamber and how it much it shrouds the valve

i have some stuff that i need to sell any one need a short block 454/496or a 350 small block chevy short block????? dave ? anyone