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    Engine Lifting

     



    I'm just thinking about putting my engine onto my frame today and I can't decide if using my engine lift plate is a good idea. I got one of these:

    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/2923...ft-Plates.html

    I have the aluminum AFR heads with an aluminum Edelbrock Air-Gap intake on it and the carb mount studs are about 1/4". I don't really feel good about putting all that weight onto those little studs bolted into aluminum. I guess I could put eight little bolts in as it has both Edelbrock and Holley stud holes.

    The alternative is two steel engine hoist loops that will bolt in using the intake bolts but then there is only two and they're into the aluminum heads.

    What do you guys think is the best, I don't want to drop this thing.

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    Probably thousands of people have done this with success, as long as the bolts are tight. Probably has something to do with some engineering calculation that one of our graduate engineer members could detail. That being said I've just never been excited about the idea and use two lift loops that bolt to the cylinder heads with a sling hooked to each. Just my own bias. Aluminum heads haven't seemed to mind (again, as long as the bolts are tight and have sufficient length to maximize the number of threads of contact).
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    Sean I used a load distributor bolted to 4 exhaust holes with number 8 bolts and washers. I lifter my 429 out with this setup. It ways 750 lbs approx.
    The load leveler lets you angle the engine as it comes out or in, quite nice for 29.00 at HF.

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    Just remove the studs and put in longer bolts. Ive used those carb hole plates on a BBc with iron heads and it stayed on the hook.


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    A 1/4-20 bolt G5 has a clamp load of 1,100 lb. G8 1,500 lbf. 4 bolts is plenty. Like Bob said make sure they are tight and use most of the female thread without bottoming out. I would also use a washer under each bolt.

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    I picked up a load distributer like Stovens used for $29 on sale when I went to pick up my wheel dollies that were also on sale, my lucky day!

    It just made me feel better but that's good to know if I have to do it again, thanks for the input once again,

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    One issue I've had with the load shifter type is interference where the firewall is tight to the back of the engine, just something for folks to be mindful of.
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    Make eyelet brackets to bolt to your accessory mount holes at the front and back of the heads and run a chain diagonally for centering
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    This story involves two bored brothers with access to a backhoe. The names have been changed to protect the guilty.

    The shop manager tells my brother to drive the backhoe out to the far end of the lot and flip over one of the wrecked work trucks and pull the rear end out of it for one of the other trucks in the shop. He said he needs some help muscling stuff around and I offer to go with him. Along the way my brother is showing me the proper way to get a backhoe to pop wheelies and we really didnt run in to too much stuff on the way to the back of the lot. Once we find the wreck to flip I'm joking and told my brother that there was a special option where Chevy pickups had hoods that opened forward like a Corvette, and this truck was one of them. He's looking at me like I'm crazy and I swung the backhoe around and hook the back side of the hood and snap the control lever "accidently" putting the bucket through the truck windshield... and proceed to fold the hood forward, ripping it off the hinges. He looks at me and says, did you know you can remove a quadrajet without unbolting it?

    He hooks the teeth of the bucket under the Qjet and proceeds to lift the entire front end of the truck off the ground by about five feet. It took a few minutes of bouncing the front end of the truck by the carb bolts before anything broke loose, and it was the carb that broke, not the bolts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Antagonism
    This story involves two bored brothers with access to a backhoe. The names have been changed to protect the guilty.

    The shop manager tells my brother to drive the backhoe out to the far end of the lot and flip over one of the wrecked work trucks and pull the rear end out of it for one of the other trucks in the shop. He said he needs some help muscling stuff around and I offer to go with him. Along the way my brother is showing me the proper way to get a backhoe to pop wheelies and we really didnt run in to too much stuff on the way to the back of the lot. Once we find the wreck to flip I'm joking and told my brother that there was a special option where Chevy pickups had hoods that opened forward like a Corvette, and this truck was one of them. He's looking at me like I'm crazy and I swung the backhoe around and hook the back side of the hood and snap the control lever "accidently" putting the bucket through the truck windshield... and proceed to fold the hood forward, ripping it off the hinges. He looks at me and says, did you know you can remove a quadrajet without unbolting it?

    He hooks the teeth of the bucket under the Qjet and proceeds to lift the entire front end of the truck off the ground by about five feet. It took a few minutes of bouncing the front end of the truck by the carb bolts before anything broke loose, and it was the crab that broke, not the bolts.
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