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    Whats shorting it out?

     



    So i know this isn't a hotrod, but i've got a 97 Pontiac Sunfire with the 2.4L engine. Its got 168000 on it. I had the coil tower go out on it, so i replaced the boots, plugs, and tower. It was relatively cheap. I drove it for about 2 weeks and the same thing happened...it running on 2 cylinders. What is causing the tower to malfunction? Theres gotta be something in there causing it to short out. HELP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffTrax View Post
    So i know this isn't a hotrod, but i've got a 97 Pontiac Sunfire with the 2.4L engine. Its got 168000 on it. I had the coil tower go out on it, so i replaced the boots, plugs, and tower. It was relatively cheap. I drove it for about 2 weeks and the same thing happened...it running on 2 cylinders. What is causing the tower to malfunction? Theres gotta be something in there causing it to short out. HELP!
    Those all had problems from the get go. Get one from the dealer and it'll cure ya right up.Be sure and use plenty of dielectric grease on both ends of the plug boots.

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    This is a common problem with the 2.4L. This engine uses a "waste spark" ignition system. It fires cylinders 1 and 4 at the same time and 2 and 3 at the same time. What affects one cylinder usually makes a mess in the sister cylinder. The Ignition Control Module (ICM) communicates with the computer and directs the module when to correctly "time" the sparks. On the output side of the ICM, there are three terminals. One is +12V with the ignition on, the other two are battery ground when the ICM pulls them to ground to fire the coil.

    In that you’re running on two cylinders, it sounds like it is a coil or coil housing. If the coil is bad, it will affect both 1 and 4 or 2 and 3.

    That said – it could also be the electronic fuel injectors – but they typically go bad one at a time, not in pairs.

    Word of caution - this ignition system has been known to shock the living bejeebies out of more than one person attempting to perform "live" testing. Be careful - go bathroom before testing - trust me on this!!

    Good Luck,
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