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    Desktop Dyno Help Please

     



    Hey guys, I have built a 383 cu. inch sbc to be installed in a 1974 corvette coupe with a manual transmission. The major components are:
    1978 4 bolt block bored 4.030"
    Scat 4340 forged 3.75" crank
    Carrillo forged 6" rods Carr bolts
    Probe SRS -12.8 cc dished pistons 9.8:1 compression
    AFR 195 Eliminator cylinder heads
    Comp Cams hyd roller cam 230/236 duration .510/.520 lift
    Comp Cams 1.6 roller rockers
    Edelbrock rpm performer intake
    Holley 4150 carb 750 cfm
    Using 1 5/8" dyno headers this engine make 479 ft/lb @ 4400 and 468 hp @ 5800.
    What effect will running 1 7/8" primaries into a 4" collector headers have on these results. Also I don't think the RPM intake will fit under my stock L82 hood. Can you see what the results would be with a Wiend low rise single plane Stealth intake.
    Thanks for you help
    Last edited by Rgtrough; 06-16-2009 at 05:14 PM. Reason: added compression
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rgtrough View Post
    Hey guys, I have built a 383 cu. inch sbc to be installed in a 1974 corvette coupe with a manual transmission. The major components are:
    1978 4 bolt block bored 4.030"
    Scat 4340 forged 3.75" crank
    Carrillo forged 6" rods Carr bolts
    AFR 195 Eliminator cylinder heads
    Comp Cams hyd roller cam 230/236 duration .510/.520 lift
    Comp Cams 1.6 roller rockers
    Edelbrock rpm performer intake
    Holley 4150 carb 750 cfm
    Using 1 5/8" dyno headers this engine make 479 ft/lb @ 4400 and 468 hp @ 5800.
    What effect will running 1 7/8" primaries into a 4" collector headers have on these results. Also I don't think the RPM intake will fit under my stock L82 hood. Can you see what the results would be with a Wiend low rise single plane Stealth intake.
    Thanks for you help
    You're a little mixed up on your manifolds. The Stealth is a dual-plane hi-rise. Here's the rundown on Weiand intakes....
    #8120 Action Plus...low rise dual plane, height front 3.50", height rear 4.50", idle to 5500. (Same manifold as Edelbrock Performer).
    #8150 Stealth....high rise dual plane, height front 4.19", height rear 5.27", 1500 to 6700. (Same manifold as Edelbrock Performer RPM).

    It is my opinion that if you use a single plane intake, you're going to shoot yourself in the foot. Every dyno test I have assembled has shown more hp and torque from idle to 6000 with a dual-plane, high-rise intake. Over 6000, a single-plane intake makes more power and that's great for a circle track car. It just doesn't work too well on a street driver where the motor is operated under 6000 for 99.9% of the time.

    Changing from a high-rise to a low-rise dual plane has shown to drop 40-60 hp on the dyno. Going to larger primaries on the headers will drop torque at lower rpm's, but you'll pick up a little power at the top.

    List your static compression ratio and I'll run it up on the DynoSim.

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    Hey Tech, I hoped that you would see this post. I am not sure of the part number for the Wiend intake that I have but it is a single plane and it definitly is a low rise. I edited my post to include the pistons and cr. They are Probe SRS with a -12.8cc dish producing 9.8:1 compression. I thought that the low rise single plane would wreck the great torque numbers and if I have to replace/modify the hood I will. It's the headers I am most curious about. The Hooker 4 into 1 Corvette specific sidepipe system is about $1800.00 so I want to be sure they will perform before I buy them.
    Thanks for your interest
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    1 5/8 headers, low-rise single-plane intake, cam installed straight up.....

    RPM HP TQ
    2000 141 371
    2500 183 385
    3000 229 401
    3500 290 435
    4000 348 457
    4500 398 464
    5000 437 459
    5500 464 443
    6000 475 416
    6500 468 378

    1 3/4 headers, low-rise single-plane intake, cam installed straight up....

    2000 143 374
    2500 185 389
    3000 232 406
    3500 293 439
    4000 351 461
    4500 401 468
    5000 442 465
    5500 472 450
    6000 486 426
    6500 483 390
    Apparently, the motor likes these bigger tubes.....

    1 3/4 headers, high-rise dual-plane intake (RPM), cam installed straight up....

    2000 143 375
    2500 181 380
    3000 233 408
    3500 300 450
    4000 365 480
    4500 423 494
    5000 471 495
    5500 502 479
    6000 513 449
    6500 504 407
    It seems to like this manifold also....gained 38 hp and 31 ft/lbs torque over the baseline....

    1 3/4 headers, high-rise dual-plane intake, cam advanced 2 degrees. Takes away a little power at the top, but adds torque where you can use it....

    2000 144 379
    2500 182 383
    3000 236 413
    3500 303 455
    4000 366 480
    4500 426 500
    5000 472 496
    5500 498 475
    6000 506 443
    6500 490 396
    This combo reaches a peak volumetric efficiency of 102.1% @ 5000 rpm's. This makes your 383 think it's a 391.
    Last edited by techinspector1; 06-16-2009 at 09:34 PM.

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    Hey Tech, thanks for the work. I thought that the big pipes might put me close to the 500 hp mark. And even though I know it is just a number and torque is much more important, making 500 horses will be really satisfying.
    Thanks for the effort.
    PEACE, BUD

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