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12-17-2009 09:32 PM #1
torker 2
Recently purchased small jounal 327 long block, needs rebuild. Seller gave me a torker 2 intake to get it out of his way. Thinking of rebuilding the 327 heads (461 casting) and putting them on my sons 283 in place of the power packs. Sometime down the road i will rebuild the 327 with aluminum heads and intake. Which brings me to my question, i've searched this and other forums and no one seems to use the torker 2 manifolds? Are they out dated? Or is there just certain builds the torker 2 intake and cams should be used for?Last edited by RUSSW; 12-17-2009 at 10:48 PM.
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12-17-2009 10:11 PM #2
As per Summit's web site,
"Edelbrock's Torker II intake manifolds feature a single-plane, low-rise design that can give you top-end horsepower without affecting the mid-range. What Edelbrock did was increase the plenum volume and alter the short-side radius of the runners, to give the air/fuel charge a straight shot at the intake valves. That straight shot produces a potent power build from 2,500 to 6,500 rpm."
So unless you want to build a car that's comfortable in the above RPM range, the Torker II may be a good item to list on Craigslist or E-Bay.
The Performer RPM seems to be a great manifold for most stock to moderate SB builds.
Good Luck,
Glenn"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty." John Basil Barnhil
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12-17-2009 10:46 PM #3
Do you think the torker 2 intake would be better suited for bigger cube small blocks or any size built to handle 5500+ rpm's. Might be a silly question why does edlebrock offer rpm and torker combos that are in the same rpm range? I understand single plane increase top end, dual plane rpm mid-high. Think the 327 engine is better suited for rpm or torker combo? Like most people,i wouldnt mind being able to use what parts i have, but i know some combination of parts just wont work together.
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12-18-2009 04:20 AM #4
Intake manifold design and theory has changed and progressed dramatically over the past 10 or 20 years. Those manifolds we thought were so great at one time have been surpassed by newer, better designs. The Torkers were great manifolds in their day, I ran one on the 351 Cleveland in my 68 Mustang. It was a very strong engine and I think the intake was a big contributor to that performance...........but it was a drag only car and didn't like low rpms.
I know it is hard to pass up using a free speed part, but as Glenn has shown in his post, that manifold is a single plane, designed for high rpm intake. On the street it will be a dog on an engine that is already short on cubes. Ebay would be my suggestion too.
Don
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12-18-2009 06:23 AM #5
Another angle
I still have an old TM1 manifold that pre dates the torker. Someday I'll use it on something just because it looks cool. Kinda like those of us who run multi carb stuff because we like the look. Face it single plane intakes definitely look better than dual planes.I remember when hot rods were all home made.
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12-18-2009 08:40 AM #6
I ran a T-2 on a built 355 SBC and 427 BBC vette. I highly recommend it. No problems with low end and mid range; that's what it was built for; and it is relatively low profile (fit the vette).
KitzJon Kitzmiller, MSME, PhD EE, 32 Ford Hiboy Roadster, Cornhusker frame, Heidts IFS/IRS, 3.50 Posi, Lone Star body, Lone Star/Kitz internal frame, ZZ502/550, TH400
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12-18-2009 02:46 PM #7
Kitz - you must have had a unique experience. According to Edelbrock, "These single-plane, low-rise intakes work well for high-rpm, high-performance street applications. Ideal for applications where hood clearance is limited, they produce gains in top-end horsepower with adequate throttle response. Not intended for mileage or emissions applications, they are only for high-performance vehicles."
They are not intended for low RPM (under 2500) applications.."Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty." John Basil Barnhil
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12-18-2009 03:26 PM #8
Depends on the total package too.....if you have a 4,000 pound car with a powerglide and 2.73 rear gears ,it not going to work too well.
If you have a lighter car a 4 speed manual and 4.11 rear gears it will work alot better.
I also depends on how you intend to build the engine...
For a stock rebuild its not the best choice.....
Will the manifold work ....sure ,but you may have some tune issues to sort out ,plus it may make it more finicky to drive.
I would suggest as others have a more modern dual plane intake would give you less trouble and make it less tune sensitive.
Tell us more about what you plan to put the engine in and how you plan to use it and these great people here will have some good advice for you that will fit what you are trying to accomplish.Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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12-18-2009 03:57 PM #9
"Depends on the total package too.....if you have a 4,000 pound car with a powerglide and 2.73 rear gears ,it not going to work too well."
Oh my - I remember putting dual quads on a friends '63 Impala - 283, powerglide. We replaced a factory stock 2 barrel. It's funny now, but what a pig. We were young and inexperienced and of course blamed the guy we had bought the dual quads and manifold from ($50 at a swap meet!)
Once you were rolling along at about 50 mph and nailed it - well that was a different story! I don't think my shorts ever came clean...
Thanks for the memory jolt!
Glenn"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty." John Basil Barnhil
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12-18-2009 04:20 PM #10
Thanks for all the input! if its possible to use on the 327, i will. of course that will be later on, still have kids in school. also helping my son with his car, meaning i am the primary funds source for that. I would like to find a rolling chassis, vega or monza. for strip, but i would like to be able to drive it to and from track. just to run it for fun. i live about 12 miles from an 1/8 th mile track, deep gears no problem. just need some ideas, plenty of time to plan out the engine build. Oh and sorry to hear about your shorts Glenn. funny!Last edited by RUSSW; 12-18-2009 at 06:21 PM.
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12-18-2009 07:39 PM #11
I used one once on a 327 that I had put in my s10. But I didn't mind losing some botttem end grunt as the s10 was so light in the ass that it liked to spin. but I also had bored the 327 and put a few parts on her with a 2500 converter. wasn't the best developed set up but it sure did scream
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