Welcome to Club Hot Rod!  The premier site for everything to do with Hot Rod, Customs, Low Riders, Rat Rods, and more. 

  •  » Members from all over the US and the world!
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and hundreds of thousands of posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

 

Thread: Temp Dillema
          
   
   

Reply To Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 20
  1. #1
    ARTEMIS1759's Avatar
    ARTEMIS1759 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Center
    Car Year, Make, Model: 58 Chevy Biscayne 350/TH350
    Posts
    83

    Temp Dillema

     



    OK so I am back on leave from the military for 2 weeks and have 1994 GMC Yukon 4x4 2 door SLE with 5.7 and auto. Since I been gone in the last 6 months it won't heat up. It has a new radiator and a new thermostat was installed. I thought it could be the thermostat but not sure. I am just looking for ideas. There is no heat or luke warm heat and the temp guage reads right around 100. It runs fine but there is no heat. It seems to be loosing about 1 quart of coolant every 2 months. Anyone got ideas for me. I only got till the 17th. Thanks all.

  2. #2
    ford2custom's Avatar
    ford2custom is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    st
    Car Year, Make, Model: 1950 Ford 2dr. Custom
    Posts
    1,465

    First enjoy your time off; those two weeks go by pretty fast.

    Usually it’s the other way around, too hot. You might try touching the heater hose going into the heater core at the fire wall, if it’s not hot then it could be the water pump leaking out coolant but it should get hot if that were the case. The thermostat could be bad even though you changed it.

    I hope the coolant is not getting into the engine, check the dipstick just in case. I've had that happen before, Head gasket.

    Richard

  3. #3
    ARTEMIS1759's Avatar
    ARTEMIS1759 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Center
    Car Year, Make, Model: 58 Chevy Biscayne 350/TH350
    Posts
    83

    This one has me confused. First thing I checked was oil. Not milky. I am going to check to see if anything is heating up. Have not checked the core yet. I can't figure out why it is running so cold?

  4. #4
    1gary is offline Banned Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Roch
    Car Year, Make, Model: 1985 high top Astro van
    Posts
    2,520

    Under the last touched theory,it could have air trapped in the system.If it was a bad head gasket,you can take off the rad cap and wait for the thermostat to open.If there is a bad head gasket once the thermostat opened,you would see a stream of bubbles.Is there any white smoke coming out of the tail pipe??.That is after it warms up.

  5. #5
    ARTEMIS1759's Avatar
    ARTEMIS1759 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Center
    Car Year, Make, Model: 58 Chevy Biscayne 350/TH350
    Posts
    83

    [QUOTE=1gary;379888]Under the last touched theory,it could have air trapped in the system.If it was a bad head gasket,you can take off the rad cap and wait for the thermostat to open.If there is a bad head gasket once the thermostat opened,you would see a stream of bubbles.Is there any white smoke coming out of the tail pipe??.That is after it warms up.

    No smoke, milky oil, nothing??

  6. #6
    ford2custom's Avatar
    ford2custom is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    st
    Car Year, Make, Model: 1950 Ford 2dr. Custom
    Posts
    1,465

    Try blocking the radiator then watch the gauge. Put a piece of cardboard or some type of cover; just make sure you watch the gauge.

    Richard

  7. #7
    jyardgirl's Avatar
    jyardgirl is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    West Point, Virginia, United States
    Car Year, Make, Model: 1971 monte carlo
    Posts
    2,772

    are you sure that you thermostat is put in correctly.
    Last edited by jyardgirl; 03-10-2010 at 03:26 PM.
    BARB

    LET THE FUN BEGIN

  8. #8
    NTFDAY's Avatar
    NTFDAY is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Springfield
    Car Year, Make, Model: '66 Mustang, 76 Corvette
    Posts
    5,374

    What is the anti-freeze ratio?
    Ken Thomas
    NoT FaDe AwaY and the music didn't die
    The simplest road is usually the last one sought
    Wild Willie & AA/FA's The greatest show in drag racing

  9. #9
    1gary is offline Banned Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Roch
    Car Year, Make, Model: 1985 high top Astro van
    Posts
    2,520

    [QUOTE=ARTEMIS1759;379889]
    Quote Originally Posted by 1gary View Post
    Under the last touched theory,it could have air trapped in the system.If it was a bad head gasket,you can take off the rad cap and wait for the thermostat to open.If there is a bad head gasket once the thermostat opened,you would see a stream of bubbles.Is there any white smoke coming out of the tail pipe??.That is after it warms up.

    No smoke, milky oil, nothing??
    Suggest you don't over look the cap off/bubbles test.

  10. #10
    rspears's Avatar
    rspears is offline CHR Member/Contributor Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Gardner, KS
    Car Year, Make, Model: '33 HiBoy Coupe, '32 HiBoy Roadster
    Posts
    11,147

    Can you get your hands on an infrared heat gun to shoot engine/radiator/hoses and see what your temps really are? Like Barb said, are you sure the t-stat was put in the right direction with the element down into the manifold? Probably is, or you would be tending to run hot, then snap open once the whole housing got hot enough...(I think). Was the "new radiator" an OEM replacement, or did you put in something custom? Be sure the path from the filler neck to the coolant recovery tank is not blocked or you can get a vacuum lock on the system. New hoses with the new radiator? Bottom hose is not sucking closed is it? I lean towards air in the system - some Jeeps need to be parked on a steep uphill slant and vented (pressure off the system) to get the air out of the intake - never heard of it on a SBC though.
    I've seen that there were lots of problems with deteriorating intake gaskets due to DexCool, which might explain your leak, but not your temperature issue.
    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/autom...m_dexcool.html
    Roger
    Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.

  11. #11
    ARTEMIS1759's Avatar
    ARTEMIS1759 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Center
    Car Year, Make, Model: 58 Chevy Biscayne 350/TH350
    Posts
    83

    ok ALL. gOT PART OF IT FIGURED OUT. fINALLY TOOK THE WATER NECK OFF THE INTAKE. WhILE I WAS GONE ONE OF MY SON'S SHADE TREE MECHANIC FRIENDS PUT TE t STAT IN. sO i PULL IT OFF. aFTER NOTICING IT WAS LEAKING IN TAT AREA. tHE oRING IS SITTING ON TOP OF THE T-STAT INSTEAD OF Wrapped around it. So now I got temp to 150 or 160 and a fair amount of heater. Sorry for the caps lock I don't feel like retyping all this lol. I think it may be the coolant mix now. The radiator was OE and the T stat came from my old parts store and I know those guys their shit. Maybe it is broke. Who knows I will check that too here.

  12. #12
    1gary is offline Banned Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Roch
    Car Year, Make, Model: 1985 high top Astro van
    Posts
    2,520

    Thumbs up

     



    Quote Originally Posted by ARTEMIS1759 View Post
    ok ALL. gOT PART OF IT FIGURED OUT. fINALLY TOOK THE WATER NECK OFF THE INTAKE. WhILE I WAS GONE ONE OF MY SON'S SHADE TREE MECHANIC FRIENDS PUT TE t STAT IN. sO i PULL IT OFF. aFTER NOTICING IT WAS LEAKING IN TAT AREA. tHE oRING IS SITTING ON TOP OF THE T-STAT INSTEAD OF Wrapped around it. So now I got temp to 150 or 160 and a fair amount of heater. Sorry for the caps lock I don't feel like retyping all this lol. I think it may be the coolant mix now. The radiator was OE and the T stat came from my old parts store and I know those guys their shit. Maybe it is broke. Who knows I will check that too here.
    Cool-thanks for the update.

  13. #13
    NTFDAY's Avatar
    NTFDAY is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Springfield
    Car Year, Make, Model: '66 Mustang, 76 Corvette
    Posts
    5,374

    Your coolant mix should never exceed 50/50. A higher concentrate of anti freeze will cause it to run cooler.
    Ken Thomas
    NoT FaDe AwaY and the music didn't die
    The simplest road is usually the last one sought
    Wild Willie & AA/FA's The greatest show in drag racing

  14. #14
    rspears's Avatar
    rspears is offline CHR Member/Contributor Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Gardner, KS
    Car Year, Make, Model: '33 HiBoy Coupe, '32 HiBoy Roadster
    Posts
    11,147

    Quote Originally Posted by NTFDAY View Post
    Your coolant mix should never exceed 50/50. A higher concentrate of anti freeze will cause it to run cooler.
    I did not know that more glycol would run cooler! Learned something today.
    Roger
    Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.

  15. #15
    kitz's Avatar
    kitz is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Austin
    Car Year, Make, Model: 32 Roadster, BBC
    Posts
    962

    Quote Originally Posted by NTFDAY View Post
    Your coolant mix should never exceed 50/50. A higher concentrate of anti freeze will cause it to run cooler.
    I believe it would tend to run hotter. Pure water has the highest specific heat capacity. For a given flow rate when you add E-Glycol this drops and the fluid temps rise. In addition the mixture does not pump as efficiently as pure water so there's another penalty. These cause heat, not cold. In either case it is not going to result in more than a +/- 5 degree difference in an automotive application.

    Looks like you have a 160 thermostat and you probably need a 185 IMO. This is especially true if the engine is fuel injected ..................

    Kitz
    Jon Kitzmiller, MSME, PhD EE, 32 Ford Hiboy Roadster, Cornhusker frame, Heidts IFS/IRS, 3.50 Posi, Lone Star body, Lone Star/Kitz internal frame, ZZ502/550, TH400

Reply To Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Links monetized by VigLink