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    more 283 starting problems.

     



    few questions on starting the 283 that has been setting for 20 or so years. Already drained the gas, carb overhaul, new points, condenser, plugs, wires, new fuel filter, oil, oil filter.
    1) correct pont gap? .19??
    2) firing order 18436572 ?
    3) from front are cylinders on left 2468 and right 1357?
    4) correct wire placement on the cap? which connection should be the wire number one? I think the rotor rotates counter clockwise.
    4) distributor is in the rear, where should the vacumn be pointing when looking at it from the front?
    5) even with carb starter fluid I still cant get the engine to run..it tries to turn over but it just won't catch. any thoughts?
    even with the point gap off and the timing shouldn't it still crank over and atleast run rough?

    some thoughts were to remove the top of the carb, fill the bowel with fresh gas, trie a new pointless distributor, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated Thanks,,Paul

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    few questions on starting the 283 that has been setting for 20 or so years. Already drained the gas, carb overhaul, new points, condenser, plugs, wires, new fuel filter, oil, oil filter.
    1) correct pont gap? .19??
    2) firing order 18436572 ?
    3) from front are cylinders on left 2468 and right 1357?
    4) correct wire placement on the cap? which connection should be the wire number one? I think the rotor rotates counter clockwise.
    4) distributor is in the rear, where should the vacumn be pointing when looking at it from the front?
    5) even with carb starter fluid I still cant get the engine to run..it tries to turn over but it just won't catch. any thoughts?
    even with the point gap off and the timing shouldn't it still crank over and atleast run rough?

    some thoughts were to remove the top of the carb, fill the bowel with fresh gas, trie a new pointless distributor, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated Thanks,,Paul
    1) Point gap is close
    2) Correct 18436572 Clockwise
    3) Correct. Dirver's side is 1357, passenger 2468
    First 4) Get your engine to top dead center. Then look where the rotor is pointing. That's #1. Make SURE you have cylinder #1 at TDC, not #6. You can tell by holding your finger over the #1 spark plug hole as you bring the engine up to the timing mark.
    Other 4) Should be on your left, with the spud pointing at about 45 degrees to the front. However this is not critical, as long as you get the First 4 correct.

    Thoughts:

    - If your timing is WAY OFF, it won't run at all. See First 4 above and make sure of timing.

    - Pull off a spark plug wire and see if you're getting spark. If you're not even getting a bump with starter fluid, I'm guessing a spark problem.

    Oh, btw, DONT fill the bowel with gas. Danged uncomfortable, that . . .

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    fill the bowel with fresh gas
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    You should check to see if your coil has power with the ignition on. Next if you checked to see if you had spark and didn't your ditributor might be (180) which means that the number one plug is firing on exhaust stroke and it needs to be on compression stroke. If thats the case pull number one spark plug and rotate engine untill you get it top dead center again, and redrop distributor. Next if timing is off you can have someone crank the engine over while you rotate the distributor closer to timing.

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    no u cant go back then it will be all boring around here again
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    I have yet to see how a horse and a pistol will help anyone streets! Also, if your 283 has been setting for 20 years like you said, be sure that your contacts to the coil are clean and you are getting spark. Too many people swap and tune endlessly without checking spark.
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    check and make sure the distributor is not 180* degrees out

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    i think after all my years of 'testimonials' the gas tank ..more tham likely has rust in it.......this is going to cause you problems=sooner or later.....you need to check this out,great gas,new fuel pump,new lines,carb etc,won't save you on this one...over the log run......trust me on this,it happened to us on a 67 camaro that had been sitting in a garage=inside for 23 years.......just something to ponder,iif its just to start.well maybe you will be ok,personally i would drop it and see for myself,but if you gonna drive it,among all the other parts that will need brought up to spec,taking care of this WILL save u a ton of headaches.....gofast.

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