Thread: Building 32 frame
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10-11-2006 04:20 PM #1
Building 32 frame
I am looking for a drawing for a 32 frame with enough dimensions to build from, I want to build a completely stainlees steel frame with a custom IFS front And Jag rear. So far all that I have found are hole location drawings. If any one has any info it would be very welcomed!!
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10-11-2006 04:43 PM #2
The common drawings like the one sold on Ebay and the ones on the Wescott site are basically the location and size of the holes in the frame. If you need the channel cross sections, such is not readily available....we have searched for three years for such and had to do our own CAD files (which are not true 1932 rails). The frame manufacturers have patterns for their plasma or laser cutters that would give you the dimensions that you need but you probably wont get them to give them to you. You might get a frame mfg to cut you a set of rails from stainless....if you really need them.....the best question is "why stainless?" Have you researched the strength of stainless vs normal steel? The cost? The weight? The weldability? If you want to do stainless for appearance sake, you might look at coatings to achieve the look at a lesser cost.
Good luck
mike in tucson
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10-11-2006 09:11 PM #3
Originally Posted by 1923sst
like here ...
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/buil...ame-98511.html
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10-11-2006 10:04 PM #4
Just took a look at your T bucket with SS suspension and frame. Absolutely gorgeous workmanship. You certainly do know how to work with stainless. Why don't you post some pictures of the T bucket on here for us??
Good luck with the Deuce. I'm sure it will be equally spectacular.
Don
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10-12-2006 07:31 AM #5
It looks to me like you know what you are doing.
Wescott's site is about as good as you'll get unless you can find a frame to photo and measure. Duece posted this on the HotRodders board and it hasn't changed since then...
Knowing all of the dimensions they give you, you should be able to extrapolate anything they don't call out.
http://www.wescottsauto.com/pdf2/FR-4.pdf
MarkIf money is the root of all evil... Women must be the fertilizer...
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10-12-2006 07:34 AM #6
Why Stainless?
1) Because it doesn't rot (true for 300 series or austenitic)
2) It has comparable strength to standard framing steels. And much increase ultimate strain to failure generally. Young's Modulus and density about the same as carbon steel.
3) It looks gorgeous
4) Many austenitics are very weldable; typically 304 used for example
4) Did I mention it doesn't rot!?
Why not stainless?
1) It is more expensive to buy
2) It is more expensive to machine in some cases
3) Threads and Fasteners in stainless tend to gall easily
4) It has a much higher thermal expansion coefficient than carbon steel, like 9.5 to 6
Personally I like it. KitzJon Kitzmiller, MSME, PhD EE, 32 Ford Hiboy Roadster, Cornhusker frame, Heidts IFS/IRS, 3.50 Posi, Lone Star body, Lone Star/Kitz internal frame, ZZ502/550, TH400
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10-12-2006 08:31 AM #7
I don't know if this will help you or not. It's info on the original 1932. Maybe you can get an engineer to scale the drawing for you.
http://ford.tocmp.com/manuals/Ford/1932/index.htm
Pat1930 A Bone
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10-12-2006 04:15 PM #8
Might try a phone call to America Stamping (in Mississippi) and see if they could do you up some stainless rails.....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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10-13-2006 08:42 AM #9
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
Lynn
'32 3W
There's no 12 step program for stupid!
http://photo.net/photos/Lynn%20Johanson
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10-13-2006 09:26 AM #10
Did you see the work on his bucket? I don't think he will have too much trouble.
Don
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10-13-2006 08:18 PM #11
I'm going to take the liberty of posting some more pictures of his T bucket on here. ( I just BORROWED them)
Really some beautiful craftsmanship.
Don
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10-16-2006 08:56 AM #12
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Lynn
'32 3W
There's no 12 step program for stupid!
http://photo.net/photos/Lynn%20Johanson
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10-16-2006 09:22 AM #13
Originally Posted by rumrumm
And stainless is difficult to shape and bend in a thickness that would support the loads that a frame needs to do ...
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