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    Question 5-Window and Sedan windshield question

     



    I hope someone can help me here.
    I need to make a bracket to locate the threaded stud onto my sedan opening windsheild after chopping the roof. The problem is, i have nothing to style it on as the original was cut off. The outer skin of the pillar has been removed (necessary for the chop) and i have whats left of the bracket after it was cut.
    The only photo i have is this one of another sedan showing the assembly, it's possible to see the 3 rivets holding this bracket in place. Can someone tell me if the interior trim panel (the black vertical piece in the photo) has a cut out for this bracket? or describe how it all looks? From that i should be able to make something close if not the same as original.
    Also, i have 2 slide washers and 2 knurled nuts from CWMoss is this the correct amount? or should there be 4 slide washers?
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    I looked at my unchoped sedan and I belive the a piller molding should be metal and it does have a notch for the bracket and stud on the body.

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    Thanks for that ratrodder32.
    It's difficult to figure out when everythings missing.
    Looking at a few sedans in TRJ it seems that chopped 5-windows and sedans have the slider brackets inverted. I guess this because they would hit the dash when the windshield is closed? i will do the same with mine.
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    let me know if you need pics of stock uncut A piller and windshield frame set up.

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    Ratrodder, if you can get a picture that would help me a lot. I now have the frame hinged and tomorrow i'm ready to weld in the inner skin after i make the brackets. Thanks again.
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    Mel
    I don't know if this will help any ( I'm not able to send pictures), but here goes. I have a '32 5 win that has been chopped 3 inches and here is what I did. Like you, all of the stock mounting locations for the windshield frame were gone so with the interior trim panel out I flipped the bracket slider over mounted it to the windshield frame and closed it. From there I built a bracket that was just large enough, 1 1/4"x 7/8"x 1/16", and drilled a hole to mount the swing arm to. This I welded it to the roof post. I made it kinda trick looking so it appears "factory". The way I did it I had to have a small shim between the swingarm and the bracket I made, because there was a small opening of maybe a 1/16" or less. When everything is installed you can't tell its there. I then took the trim panel, cut it to fit, heights wise, then made a notch just big enough to clear the bracket I made. With the bottom 3" of the trim panel cut off the lower screw mount was gone, so I drilled a hole (on the windshield side) and counter sunk it, so I have a screw at the top, original, and the one I put in at the bottom. Luckily I did the other side right away so I didn't have to retrain myself. I hope this helps. A couple of pictures and I could have just kept my mouth shut.
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    Thanks Bob. Yep thats very helpful. I'm also trying to make it 'factory' look also but i realise when you get involved in chopping (3-1/4 for my sedan) things are never going to fit and look exactly as they should. I made i mistake in repositioning the windshield frame brackets so they appeared half way down the chopped windsheild, so instead of inverting the sliders (like you did) they will drop down as original. I just need to make sure the threaded stud is in the right place. Next time i'll get it right!!!!
    Mel

    Here are some 'before and after' photos. It's all 'work in progress'.
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    Keep up the great work, I love the hacksaw picture......

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    No more waiting around, time to cut up some metal!!

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    Here's the A pillar showing the innerskin that need to be replaced and a bracket fabricated.The top of the door frame is only tacked to the wood at this point.
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    Here's the filler skin with the bracket welded to it, careful lining up and measuring makes sure it goes in the right place.

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    Welded in and dressed back, starting to look finished. Hopefully this should look something like original.

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    Taa Daa! just about in the right place for the correct leverage position of the slider brackets to work for closing the windsheild against the seal.

    No-one's yet told me whether there are 2 slide washers either side so i must assume there are, thats the way it all goes together and works well. Job done . Need to do the same to the other side on my next day off.

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