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    Front Shocks-how much travel needed?

     



    While working on changing out my headlights a week ago, I noticed when removing the shock mount for the old headlight setup that my front shocks only have about 2" of travel before they would "bottom out"... in other words, only about 2" of the shaft is exposed at the top of the shock when the car is at rest. I don't know how much travel a solid axle/4 bar setup has to begin with, as this is my first but i would think it wouldn't take much to bottom these out. From what i can see, they are not "shorty" shocks, and look like they'd measure about 9 1/2" if they were fully compressed. I see So Cal sells a shorty shock from Pete 'N Jakes that seems like it would give me more travel before bottoming out, but I'm wondering if I need these or not.

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    I have not driven the car except for a few illegal trips around the block, so it has no "real world" miles on it. Shorty chrome shocks are spendy (about 90.00 each) and I don't wanna buck up for em if i don't need em... so the question is, is 2" of shock travel too little?
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    I think I would try to bottom them out by having someone seated in the car and bounce the car while watching the travel 2" dose seem a little light, but I have know real knowledge of your car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeybsyc
    While working on changing out my headlights a week ago, I noticed when removing the shock mount for the old headlight setup that my front shocks only have about 2" of travel before they would "bottom out"... in other words, only about 2" of the shaft is exposed at the top of the shock when the car is at rest. I don't know how much travel a solid axle/4 bar setup has to begin with, as this is my first but i would think it wouldn't take much to bottom these out. From what i can see, they are not "shorty" shocks, and look like they'd measure about 9 1/2" if they were fully compressed. I see So Cal sells a shorty shock from Pete 'N Jakes that seems like it would give me more travel before bottoming out, but I'm wondering if I need these or not.

    http://www.est1946.com/index.asp?Pag...ROD&ProdID=160

    I have not driven the car except for a few illegal trips around the block, so it has no "real world" miles on it. Shorty chrome shocks are spendy (about 90.00 each) and I don't wanna buck up for em if i don't need em... so the question is, is 2" of shock travel too little?
    the travel of the shock depends a lot on your springs. tie a string or something around the shock shaft and drive it and that will tell how much the shock is moving.
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    Its a mono leaf buggy spring... the more i look at it, the more i can't imagine that one decent bump wouldn't easily bottom the shock out. Although I've been looking at pics of other hiboys and see alot of cars with as little of travel as my own... not to say any of those guys drive them much though...

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    Generally you want half up and half down travel. But that is just a guideline, and in the real world we do with less or more to get a stance we like, which dictates how the shock sits.


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    You will be fine-mine are the same way.If your shocks are at an angle you got more travel than what you think.
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    Seems plenty tight on clearance to me, even a coilover has about 3" of travel... I'm certainly no buggy spring expert, but I think I'd be wanting a shorter shock or wider spacing on the mounts. The "sweet spot" for ride on the shock is generally at about 60% of it's travel.....or at least that's what the old rule of thumb thing has always been....
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    Here's an idea of the shock angle I have...
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    I made the move to a shorter shock from PRO SHOCKS ... No prob with the travel more to Go ! .. But what the hell do I know ..

    $ave some bucks and get these shocks ( Pro 401 )... $99.95 a pair

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    If your shocks have the rubber grommet on the shaft as shown in one of the attached pictures and it is a tight fit you can push these down on the barrel of the shock while it is at ride height and then drive it and check for shock travel this way. If the shocks don't have a grommet, use a small plastic wire tie wrapped around the shaft. This will tell you if you have any shock travel left.

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    Your shock placement and travel looks just like mine, 10K miles and no issues. Drive it it should be fine. The old cross buggy spring dosen't afford much travel and actually handles well as far as turns and most normal road situations. Where it dosen't do well is situations where both front wheels need compression such as speed bumps, hit 'em hard and you'd better be holdin' on tight!

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    Nitro has IMO the perfect shock setup on his car. Notice that the shock is in the sweet spot of it's travel and has plenty of compression left. Lots of guys I've seen are driving around in their buggy spring cars and don't even know they are bottoming out the shock and just assume it is a normal charachteristic of the ride. If the shock is bottoming out, you need a different shock, simple as that.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrofc
    I made the move to a shorter shock from PRO SHOCKS ... No prob with the travel more to Go ! .. But what the hell do I know ..

    $ave some bucks and get these shocks ( Pro 401 )... $99.95 a pair

    close- 8.75 / open -12.5 / ride 10.5




    put something around the shaft like the rubber washer he has and then you'll know that its doing.
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    Whats the deal with the little rubber ring on the shock? Mine doesn't have that, and the more i look at yours, it looks like the shaft is bigger above that ring, like the only true travel you have is the area between the top of the shock body and the rubber ring itself... is that true? If so, you don't really have much more travel than I do... if the part above the rubber ring can go inside the body of the shock, then those look like they'd be better than what i got now. What's the purpose of the ring? Can you remove it? Looks sorta awkward there inthe middle of the shaft.

    Here's what mine look like... the drivers side has a little less travel at rest than the pass. for some reason.
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    While your car is sitting there take 2 wire ties and put them on the shock shafts one on each side. Slide them down to top of shock. Go for a ride. Come back and see how high up the wireties are now. That will tell you your travel and if your bottoming out.
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