Thread: How do I roll new lower deck lid edge on 32

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Guys. I may be in over my head on this one. I have to replace the outer deck lid skin on my five window 32. I have done several door skins on late model stuff, but nothing like this. The lower edges on all four sides of the deck lid will have to be folded back up a full 180 to match the original deck lid. Does anyone know how this can be done? I noticed that only the lower edge of the new outer panel has a partially folded edge. The rest have no sign of where to begin the fold. Can someone explain the procedure for doing this? I am assuming that this can be done using hand tools . I need help. Thanks

Do you have a door edge folding tool, or perhaps a bead roller????

yep you need to roll the lip with a roller tool runs a small line along the deck lid to start the bend it could be done with a dolly and hammer would take some time to do a good job with it i would say they do not bend the lip so the air gap s can be ajusted

Thanks for the replies. I am not familiar with a door edge folding tool. I can borrow a bead roller, but didn't think I would be able to fit a roller in the 1 1/2" gap between the lip and inner panel. I will go by and take another look at the bead roller. I thought I would plug weld the new outer panel to the inner panel along each side to give the lip more strength before folding the edge over. I had considered using a small cutoff wheel to score the outer panel at the fold edge to make the lip fold over easier. Would this be a good idea? Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks again

If I am understanding your question correctly, I would use a Bead Roller with a Tipping wheel-it is basically a upper wheel that looks like a disc with a relatively sharp edge, and the lower wheel will have a "v" in it (obviously the disc fits in the "v" of the wheel)-this will start your edge, then you will use a Hammer and Dolly to finish the "fold over"-you will have to shrink the corners, either mechanically (with a Lancaster shrinker), or use the "tuck" method (essentially making small ruffles in the Metal, then collapsing them on themselves thereby shrinking it).

the other method would be to make a Hammer Form of the lid and form the edge over it-you will have to make an upper and lower piece (usualy made from MDF) and put some locating pins in the panel (which can be later welded shut), and clamp, clamp, clamp-if it moves during the operation you will lose your good edge. Then, using a mallett (I prefer wood, then a Slapper (Metal), slowly start forming the edge over the Hammer Form-you will more than likely have to use heat to shrink the corners, and slowly work your way around it-it will probably still need some Hammer and Dolly work to finish, but this will work also-

Personally, I would use the tipping wheel if it were me-much more controllable-

As for the cutoff wheel, I would not do it-it is too hard to control and all you will end up with is a weakened panel.

this link shows one style of door skin crimper sold by Eastwood---I am looking for the type that has the roller for you.---brian
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...emType=PRODUCT

Found it!!! This is a picture of it and a link to the seller.
http://buy-for-home.com/eastwood-item010131.html

After reading brians post maybe I am misunderstanding what you are trying to do-are you just trying to fold over the edge around the Trunk Skin? Or, do you have a Trunk Skin that does not have any edges at all?

I am just trying to fold over the edge. The panel is a Brookville that has the 90 degree lip already formed. This lip is 1 3/8" in length on the sides. They leave 3/8" extra to fold over the inner panel a full 180 degrees. As I mentioned in the original post, there is only 1 1/2" of space to work in along the edges of the panel due to the way the inner panel is stamped. I don't know if the tool Brian shows in his post will fit in this space. If this tool will fold the 3/8" of metal over as much as 90 degrees, I think I can hammer and dolly the remaining 90 degree bend as you would on a late style door skin. If someone that has used this tool can make a good guess as to whether there is room to use this tool I would appreciate it. Thanks for the replies

O.K., my misunderstanding-If you are only folding it over, why not just use a Body Hammer and Rubber covered Dolly (on the Skin side) or Door Skin Hammer-I would use a set of Vise Grips to hold the Skin to the inner structure to the Skin while I did it though-like these:

http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/sh...CAT170_pg5.htm

After I am done, I always spot weld the corners so that ithe Skin can't move on the inner structure-it's a piece of cake to do-

i have seen guys use them lip roller ruin door skins at the shop i have work at . i would never use one. i have put many skin on many a doors and van doors all you need is a toe dolly and a finsh hammer work the hole lip evenly and try not to bend it all down in one hit. but just keep slowly hiting it evenly till down. i would use the toe dolly as a back up on the out side of the skin i put the dolly in a thick welders glove or use a thin 3m rubber squeegee this helps with any rebound blows keep the dolly from making dent on the out side of the skin when done. i did not use any filler on the skin when i was done. with that roller you will for sure if you want to PM me i will give you my phone number .you can call me and i will tell more just to hard for me to put it all down fingers hurt to much