Thread: How much is to much
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11-18-2010 05:57 PM #16
Heck Jay at $35.00 per hour at your shop I will seriously look at posting my car up to America for your paint skill and then move over to Recovery for the trim job. To be totally honest,I must be one of the few who believes in if you want the best possible job done, one must be prepared to pay for it. In saying that though.I don't like being ripped off and if the person I am paying for a job can't deliver, I expect them to be honest enough to say ,heck I don't think I can do the job you are expecting. Yes the cost to set up a paintshop for commercial use is what the "Joe Avenge" would not believe. The price of a good Bake Oven alone would blow most away and then a top shop turning out good jobs would need 2 to 3 ovens. The modern shop has dust extraction units in all there prep areas which are closed off from the spray areas. The primer prep areas are again separate from the others with there own dust/overspray extraction systems and then to the final finishing area for the polishing and finish work. No,I don't want to set up a paintshop thank you,and as I said ,I don't mine paying for the professional job by someone that has pride not only in his finished job but also his or her workshop.I maybe a little crazy but it stops me going insane.
Isaiah 48: 17,18.
Mark.
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11-18-2010 08:27 PM #17
How right you are. Just as a point of reference, I did my Blowtherm downdraft booth with 1 million BTU air makeup in 1993. All tolled it came in right at $100k, the cost of the booth itself was less than half that, but by the time you do electrical, air/gas/fire suppression plumbing, concrete work, excavation, assembly, permits, yada yada it all adds up (granted part of that was due to some extortionate City of Seattle permitting cost, but still....). That was just the booth related itself, not counting the rest of the paint shop stuff. We actually discouraged complete paint jobs because the ROI wasn't there, those willing to pay the toll weren't plentiful enough.Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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11-19-2010 08:26 PM #18
wow !! Not trying to be a d**K guy's .Because I will need lots of help from you on this new toy of mine. How about we shake a can of flat black each spring call it a hot rod . Drive it , enjoy the hell out of it .will not have to watch over it like our first born at the rod meets.spend the big bucks on the go parts.think I will spend my hard earned money on that blower for my big block and keep my tubbed 32 3window flat black. Hell I was not looking forward to pulling it all back apart for paint anyway.to each there own .Last edited by mrmustang; 11-26-2010 at 09:13 PM.
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11-26-2010 08:51 PM #19
It's going to depend on the shop & who's painting it.
Mick Jenkins at So-Cal Speed Shop in Pomona painted my car & Dennis Ricklefs did the flames.
The bill was.........high.
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11-27-2010 02:30 AM #20
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11-27-2010 08:41 AM #21
I personally am never offended if people don't want to pay for paintwork. It is your money... your car... and you have to make yourself happy with the look of it.
On the other hand... I have been a rabid car buff since 1958. I did everything myself in those days, and painted my first car, and rebuilt the engine at age 16... then for the next three years, a friend and I tackled our first "frame up" streetrod!
Part of the whole point of hotrodding for me has been to build something that is a unique and outstanding piece of rolling art. The right wheels, stance, body style... or body "restyle"... and performance, are all a part of the package... but the appearance is what got me interested in doing this. Nothing else turns your head like a rumbling, sinister looking, outrageous, rod or custom!
The reason many guys want great paint is the same reason that chopped tops, chrome, mag wheels, and accessories were invented! To give your car, not only a look of great workmanship... but also to make it one-of-a-kind. That one-of-a-kind look "takes a hit" when you pull into a gathering, and park your car in a sea of other cars with the same color, similar pintriping, wheels, tires, interior, and so on. If you want to look like the other guys, and that makes you happy, then you will be lucky to be able to spend less.
Over the years, I have discovered that every person thinks a little differently than the next. It's hard to even find two people who will agree on everything In the end it is really up to you to choose the look you want. Each person will usually have to make many compromises, depending on their own skills... practicallity for the way they will be using the car... affordability... and what is most important to them. Some will even have the type of personality that makes them only do broadly popular modifications, because they don't want anyone to disapprove or criticize their choices. Others only want to please themselves, and "other people's opinions" are only that.
(I personally love to look at the variety of different ideas, so I love those rebellious creative types.) :-)
In the end, you need to be happy with the finished car, so do what you like, and enjoy the heck out of it! Just don't make the mistake of thinking there is only one correct way to do anything. Each person will have a little different view of what is correct. That is why "CUSTOM" is such a popular word in this hobby. :-)Last edited by HOTRODPAINT; 11-27-2010 at 08:45 AM.
Thank you Roger. .
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