Thread: 32 Questions
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07-31-2004 09:55 PM #1
32 Questions
Been reading a lot about 32's lately and hope to build a 3 window coupe one day. I've been reading this forum for awhile but still have some questions. Please bare with me as this is all new to me.
What is a Highboy? At first I thought it was only a Roadster but I have seen pictures of Coupes called Highboys.
What is an Outlaw? Does this mean a chopped coupe or does it just mean a particular manufacturer?
What is meant by pinching a frame? I understand why they C notch it but not sure about pinching.
A dropped axle seems to always be a chassis option but most seem to have one. Why would you want one?
Thanks for the info, haven't been able to figure these out for myself. I'm sure there will be more.
Paul
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07-31-2004 10:05 PM #2
1-Body on top of the frame, no fenders. Body style doesn't matter. If the body is dropped over the frame it's channeled. (bonus answer)
2-If capitalized, that's the manufacturer, they're in Pennsylvania.
3-Pinching the frame usually means pulling the fronts of the frame rails closer together so they tuck under the grille shell instead of hanging out wider. Only works on hiboys unless you're crazy. Sometimes used to describe the modification necessary on Model A body/deuce frame combination for the area under the cowl where the A body is narrower than the '32 body.
4-So you don't get nose bleeds from the car sitting too high. The term "too low" is an oxymoron.
So where are the other 28 questions?
You might want to go to the forum page and scroll down to the Deuce Den and read some of the old threads. There's lots of info there too.Last edited by Bob Parmenter; 07-31-2004 at 10:09 PM.
Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
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07-31-2004 11:15 PM #3
Originally posted by Streets
I saw 5 questions and 4 answer... HeheheYour Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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08-01-2004 07:42 AM #4
Thanks guys, that really helps a lot. I appreciate your patience with me, wasn't sure what to expect I want to become familiar with all of this before getting started. Believe me, there will be more questions!
Thanks again............Paul
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08-01-2004 08:21 AM #5
Originally posted by Streets
5???? [/B]
Your glasses must be with your d-a, huh?Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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08-01-2004 11:41 PM #6
BoB was right on!!!!!!
as to why you would want a dropped axle is: THEY ARE WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAY COOOOOOLER than an independent front!!!
my 2cents anyway!
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08-02-2004 06:08 AM #7
Sure they are, loose, unless you want to equate them to other things like ride and handling.......Then in my opinion the IFS beats a dropped axe hands down.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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08-02-2004 10:59 AM #8
I think what most people equate as "better handling" with the independent is the steering. The feel of rack and pinion is far better than the vega box.
My new roadster has the Uni-Steer on it, with a mono leaf spring, solid front panard bar, and the car has a big sway bar on the rear. I anticipate the "handling" to be very good. We shall see in a few weeks. It is apart for paint at the moment.
We do not drive these cars anywhere near the edge of the traction circle, or even come close to pushing the slip angles.
This leads me to believe people's term of "handling" must simply mean the feel of car on the road. That is unless you are ripping your buggy-sprung 5w highboy around Laguna Seca on the weekends.
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08-02-2004 12:03 PM #9
YES!
& What people tend to forget about, & what the NEW guys dont realize is that THESE ARE OLD CARS!!! choppy ride? bump steer? (so be it?) is part of the fun! (I LIKE AN "OLD" CAR!!! I CAN BUY A NEW ONE ON EVERY CORNER!!)
we have an OLD more drop with a split wishbone under a complete 72 year old 32 3 window, resto rod with everything on it. (stock hood, cowl lights, everything etc... & its all OLD) sporting a 500 horse 454. (you can have a peak through the stock louveres at it) the 72 year old rear fenders are covered in burnt rubber, (only a couple of tiny stars) still sitting on the stock seat getting ("REALLY") sideways in 3rd gear puts a permanent smile on your face! it REALLY does drive nice & handles great!
WE LOVE TO GET IT ON & GET WITH IT!
where we going? LETS GOOOOOO! shes been driven ALLLLLLL day long lots & lots & lots of times in the past 20 some (maybe 30?) years! BUT shes treated like a little baby otherwise, polished from top to bottom as soon as she gets home! she sits here ISCA ready!
"LETS take a run back to the beginning: WHY did gearheads soup the flathead? what was the reason for the big caddy engine? what are those wide rear tires for? RIDE? worried about the ride?
BUT its all good! i like em all!
as far as WHY a dropped axle? BECAUSE thats how its supposed to be in my eyes!
******** hey ill tell you a funny one: i jumped out of my oRiGiNaL early V8 ford 1/2 ton truck i use to bang around town in, after an hour tour around town & i jumped right into my eldorado when i got home to move it out of the way & you want to talk about "shock!" i went for a short drive & it was day & night difference! LOL!!!
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08-02-2004 12:17 PM #10
Frame/Chassis
Brand new here. very green. Was given a 27 T tudor sedan from dad. It's been sitting for 30 years. Enigine is semi dismantled (57 Lincoln 368) Frame has lots of holes and abaondoned crossmembers and such, and is not boxed. Body is origional but fenderless. I want to keep the front and rear suspension as it is: suicide front, 55 chevy posi rear with home made traction bars that are bolted to the outer side of frame rails. Killer!
Basically, this car needs everything and I don't know where to turn. I think I should turn the chassis work over to someone else. I want the car to remain old school, but I want it to be done right.
Help!!!
Thanks
Rich DeBene
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08-02-2004 12:31 PM #11
Re: Frame/Chassis
Originally posted by moots
Brand new here. very green. Was given a 27 T tudor sedan from dad.
Frame has lots of holes and abaondoned crossmembers and such, and is not boxed.
Basically, this car needs everything and I don't know where to turn. I think I should turn the chassis work over to someone else. I want the car to remain old school, but I want it to be done right.
Help!!!
From what you've described you're in dire need of a good frame and suspension setup. What you've probably got is unsafe JUNK!! There are guys out there, especially in your part of the world, who will do a good job for you. There are also flakes who may know what to do, but aren't reliable. You need to do your homework and learn the difference.Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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08-02-2004 12:44 PM #12
posted in the wrong spot
I should have posted my first post under a new thread, but I didn't knbow how until a few minutes later. Thank you for the reply. I reposted under new thread now.
Thanks
Rich
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