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Originally posted by The Al Show
This was never an open minded discussion. There are two sides that don't agree. Brikman gave his opinion on ricers. Most of us agree with him. This is a hot rod website and ricers are a different part of the automotive hobby. They will never be accepted as real hot rods.

Nor is anyone trying to get them accepted as "hot rods".

I looked at ricers with an open mind several years ago and didn't like them so now that my mind is made up Ther's no chance anything you say will change my mind. Your mind is just operating at a lower level than mine so it looks good to you.

If your post and your comprehension (or lack thereof) is any indication, I would highly disagree with this. However, I'm sure in your own mind, you, sir, are a genius.

I don't go to ricer websites and tell them they should get a real car.

Show me where anyone said "Buy an import!" or the equivalent *anywhere* in this thread. Distorting conversations and statements to fit your own weak platform only pokes more holes in it.

I have a fast Porsche

Once again, "fast" is a subjective description.

but I don't try to sell the guys here on the advantages of German engineering and I don't tell the guys on the Porsche website that they should put a Chevy engine in their cars. If you want replies that agree with yours go to a ricer site.
As for the flame fest it looks like you are the first flamer not Brickman.

Once again, you're distorting the conversation. Is it a matter of grasp of the english language? Or a simple distortion of reality? As neither points in the prior paragraph have any truth (or supporting evidence) in the thread.

As for me flaming, well, yes, you can consider this "flaming" now.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DSSA
[B]Nor is anyone trying to get them accepted as "hot rods".

"anyone"? ... You have done extensive research!
To post your views on a HotRod forum is.. not subjective?

The shadows will be behind you if you walk into the light.
----Royce

Well I guess that D ASS told me off.
As a matter of fact I do posess what is considered a "genius" IQ. That's why I'm sure your level of thinking is much lower than mine.

Disect and distort that D ASS

As for smarts, coming to this site loving rice proves yours. I can build a real car from the ground up that will run with any ricer for 1/3rd the money, smart? I won't give $25,000.00 for a car that is made from my recycled pepsi cans, Smart? I don't bad mouth people for thier opinions(You being the first Dass) on this site, smart?

I think that you have proved everybodys point that only smart-aleck punks like rice with no respect for anyone who disagrees with them or doesn't have a "Sick" car like thiers otherwise you wouldn't have gotten so offensive.

Take your uncle Ben's and fast and furious your way to the oriental websites where you all can talk trash to each other and live happily ever after, I for one would be happy.

I guess each generation has their preferences in rods. I am a 50s and 60s rodder but I can appreciate the incredible performance that the latest generation are getting from those "ricer racers". And when I pull into the 7-11 in my 19ft. '65 Bonnie with the big 421 rumblin', I get a lot of attention from those boys (& girls) too. So I guess a rodder is a rodder is a rodder......Frank in Virginia

Originally posted by The Al Show
Well I guess that D ASS told me off.
As a matter of fact I do posess what is considered a "genius" IQ. That's why I'm sure your level of thinking is much lower than mine.

Disect and distort that D ASS

I'm impressed. Since I've scored a 139 and a 137 when I was tested, I guess the only thing left to do is drop the drawers and measure them. I'll give you a bye-run on that one, since it too, is something I really don't care about.

IQ tests are nothing like having a Honda that's got a huge wing, and all chromed out. Might tell everyone about it, but when it comes down to doing what it should--isn't anything impressive.

I had my nephew stay with me for a couple of months and he's into that ricer stuff. The way i see it each generation has their cars and hey good luck to you. Me i perfer the muscle that i grew up with, in 20 years from now the hovercrafts will rule with their hydro powerplants and they'll make fun of the ricers yet again so they'll get theres too.

Originally posted by brickman
As for smarts, coming to this site loving rice proves yours. I can build a real car from the ground up that will run with any ricer for 1/3rd the money, smart? I won't give $25,000.00 for a car that is made from my recycled pepsi cans, Smart? I don't bad mouth people for thier opinions(You being the first Dass) on this site, smart?

I think that you have proved everybodys point that only smart-aleck punks like rice with no respect for anyone who disagrees with them or doesn't have a "Sick" car like thiers otherwise you wouldn't have gotten so offensive.

Take your uncle Ben's and fast and furious your way to the oriental websites where you all can talk trash to each other and live happily ever after, I for one would be happy.

You sir, are a complete idiot.

The only bad-mouthing I did was towards people who were bad-mouthing others. I've stated *SEVERAL* times (read that closely--SEVERAL--) that I enjoy domestic muscle as much as the next guy. Otherwise, I wouldn't be building a '72 C-10 up in my spare time.

The *ONLY* issue I have is with narrow-minded people lumping all import owners into the same basket, and labeling them all as "slow". There are quite a few "I-Can't-See-The-World-In-Color" people who own domestics (as you're well proving this theory) as well as Import owners.

There are "Ricers" and there are Import enthusiasts who just appreciate the same thing that most of you do---working on the cars and squeezing power from them. The fact of the badge plate on the vehicle shouldn't mean a damn thing.

In essence, you're just as bad as the cocky 17 y/o driving around in their fart-can equipped Honda with his hat on sideways pumping the latest "Slap Yo Bitch" CD in their Kraco soundsystem and laughing at all the "Domestic Junk". The only difference is that you're on the other side of the fence.

If I'm in the wrong enjoying both, well, then I'll die be wrong--but at least I'll die knowing what's actually on both sides of the fence.

And your notion that the only thing import owners do is buy a $25K car and deck it out only strengthens the proof of your ignorance that you seemingly love to wear as a badge on your arm so proudly. I have built and can show you MANY cheap 12 and 11 second Imports. One I bought for $500, due to high mileage and a bad ECU. Took it home, changed the fluids/filters/plugs and did a timing belt service one. Drove it for a week, pulled it into the shop. Built a 2.5" downpipe and cat-back for it, put in a used centerforce DF clutch, ported the exhaust manifold, hung a used 20G on it, a $35 manual boost controller and an intercooler off of a junkyard Starion. Tuned it the next morning (no sleep) and went to the local track for Test-n-Tune. Car netted a 12.9@105 on shitty "Big O" 195/60/15s.

Built a 3" catback with an Ultra-Flow over the following week, and upped the boost--12.2@112...in a car with 154K on the odometer.


I can give you a literal LIST of other cars I've built over the years like this.
Yep, we all stick a ton of money in these cars...

Originally posted by fhgrant
I guess each generation has their preferences in rods. I am a 50s and 60s rodder but I can appreciate the incredible performance that the latest generation are getting from those "ricer racers". And when I pull into the 7-11 in my 19ft. '65 Bonnie with the big 421 rumblin', I get a lot of attention from those boys (& girls) too. So I guess a rodder is a rodder is a rodder......Frank in Virginia

I applaud you. This is the mentality that I speak of.

Nice car btw, as well. I feel like a kid in a candy store every time I take out my grandfather's '66 Bonneville Convertible (albeit, with only a 389).

Although, my favorite to drive is the '56 Jaguar XK140 Drop-head-coupe. There's just something about driving sports cars built in that era, knowing that some guy was doing 142 mph in one and taking corners like a bat out of hell @ LeMans. I always joke around that the small trunk in the back wasn't for luggage--but to carry around the cajones of the old race drivers.

Originally posted by DSSA
You sir, are a complete idiot.

I am completely perplex as to why you are getting no respect on this site. When someone calls me a ........ "complete idiot"........ I have nothing but the utmost respect for them from that point on.

I am completely perplex as to why you are getting no respect on this site. When someone calls me a ........ "complete idiot"........ I have nothing but the utmost respect for them from that point on

Very true Pro, very true! But hey nothing but love to ya what evere your name is. It just convinces me that what I said about smart-aleck punks is true.

Well said Pro70

"No man can convince another of that which he himself is not certain."

Originally posted by brickman
Very true Pro, very true! But hey nothing but love to ya what evere your name is. It just convinces me that what I said about smart-aleck punks is true.

Yup..... Looks like it...... The proof iz' in the puddin' as us geezers usta' say.

I've noticed that the backbone members of clubhotrod have not participated in this thread. With age comes wisdom.