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for a quick recap...i totalled my 12 sec iroc-z28 and ended up getting a 1999 SS camaro...

took her down for some grudge match racing on wednesday night and was more than impressed. first pass i just did a dry-hop and didnt bother getting the tires hott, had a .547 reaction time,she spun a bit off the line and ended up rollin through the traps at a 13.57. My second pass i got the tires plenty hott and had a .522 light. she didnt spin one bit and ended up runnin a 13.23. My last pass for the night i had a .513 light with a quicker 60' time but ended up missin 3rd gear and sent the motor to the moon, i didnt even bother looking at the timeslip i was so pissed off.

now that thats out of the way i have to address a belief of mine. although there are no import freaks in here, i believe that they are the reason for the fall of the long lived camaro. as fred gibbs once said 'teenagers make cars... what they want, we build' keeping that in mind...how many teenagers now a days do you see rollin around in newer camaros, mustangs firebirds etc.
and no, im not forgeting the money issue, but a majority of the kids that can afford beautiful machines end up wasting it on 'nos' and 'cold air' and 'body-kits' and other shit that makes a honda look more hidious than ever. while at cecil county dragway on wednesday night the only impressive 4-banger i saw was a 1998 honda civic runnin on nitrous and he was more than proud when he posted a 14.32 e.t.

keep in mind...this kid was all decked out with his $400 watch, $200 shoes, a wanna-be brittany spears girlfriend, and the whole bit. but COME-ON its a damn civic with not even half the amount of motor i have and he probably has more money in after market parts than i bought my whole car for. but...i guess ill never figure out why they killed a once living legend, the camaro.

I agree. Maybe a few years down the road they will re-introduce the Camaro. We can only hope.

People with imports have them cause of what they see and hear, fast and furious, come on, then what do they always end up wrecking??? the real muscle (minus the mopars haha). Im sure the camaro will be brought back, but is there really a need for it? sure i know its one of the greatest cars around but who do they compete with? mustangs? doubt it. They still got the vette, killer price tag and all to beat up on that. Then they still have the trans am, which in my opinion come well faster factory then any new camaro i have ever seen. Why is that so??? any reason??? But you gotta watch out, they are pushin out 14 second neons from factory now days, whats that about? All in all i think its just a fad, muscle will always rule the boulevard.

I donno'.....those computer genarated race scenes in fast & furious 2 made those ricers look really really fast..........I guess it's time for a trip down to my local Subaru dealer and trade in the old school Mustang !!!!!Chris..........Not !!!!!!!!

That f&f movie was only worth watching becouse of the cuda and the camero, and you noticed it was the camero that saved the day, with the cuda backing it up. I was looking into a new camero ss for the girlfriend, but the last year just did'nt quite cut the mustard. I though of waiting for the new camero to see what comes of it. I've seen the concept car they had in mind, and i was not impressed. I don't know what chevy has been thinking over the last few years, but they can't seem to figure out what the buying public is looking for. The new camero is just another cookiecutter car, dull dull dull. At least fords new mustang has the balls to do something with the design team. Even the new challanger is half ass appealing. Then GM puts out that boring GTO, how many other old model lines can they screw up. I thought that the reserection of the t-bird was nice, lets see the new GT 40. GM has got to step it up and start putting up or shutting up

Being the Ford guy that I am, I have to agree with Diamond. Ford is way ahead on design and performance for the money spent. Vette's are still nice, but the price is a bit much for what you get. I would really like to see GM introduce a ground pounder rear wheel drive V-8 car with knock your eyes out styling, cuz the the rest of the manufacturers would have to get on the ball to out do the boyz at GM. I'm a bit partial, but the way I see it right now Ford is light years ahead of the rest.

Would anybody want the car manufacturers to bring back old styles of the camaros, mustangs, etc? I just think that would be really odd, but right now ford is actually on track, is mopar even still alive in this area????

they are bringing back the camero in 2005 or 2006 if my info guys are correct

i live about 40 miles from moroso in florida and we have about 60 12second and under imports about 20 of them are honda and the rest are toyota and mazda

me and my dad are in the middle of building a 2300 four cylinder (ford) im going to attempt to put four small turbos four hillborn injectors four msd boxes four coils (off of a crank trigger) the reason for so many coils with one msd box and one coil i can make a bosch platinum plus four spark off all four pegs i think that will be enough spark to burn as much fuel as i can possibly feed it the whole motor will be balenced ported and polished im guessing that the motor running off of alchohol it will well above 700hp!! we are going to put it in an 89 rx-7 with a ford nine inch with a c-6 tranny with an 8000 stall i just hope i dont get whiplash!

Maybe ill just scrap that BB stang gasser project of mine and get a honda civic instead !

Originally posted by jeffrey leonard
me and my dad are in the middle of building a 2300 four cylinder (ford) im going to attempt to put four small turbos four hillborn injectors four msd boxes four coils (off of a crank trigger) the reason for so many coils with one msd box and one coil i can make a bosch platinum plus four spark off all four pegs i think that will be enough spark to burn as much fuel as i can possibly feed it the whole motor

I'd skip the platinum plugs. Platinum has a low melting point and won't hold up with that much ignition and combustion going on. The only reason I know this is that my daily driver has a DIS system that has lower output than the setup you are dreaming up and I can't keep platinum plugs in it-it keeps burning the tips up.

Abe

Yanno, I've always been partial to American muscle. I only own American cars. But the desire to conform has been taking a toll on me lately. I found a good deal on a 1991 Mitsu Eclipse GS turbo. Would get it but for the fact that I'm broke and can't find work. 180 HP in a tiny little car sounds good, and that's at the wheels. Better than what I have now by a damn sight. Too bad it's an auto. And too bad I'm broke. But, then again, maybe it's good. One less ricer on the road. One fewer potential rice racer. I also found a good deal on a Camero. Too bad I'm broke. I would get it, but I could never afford the insurance on it. Maybe when I get my Nash done I'll have something to race in. But I will probably stay an American iron man at heart, no matter what I happen to end up driving.

Hey its better to be in a beater American car than a nice rice wagon anyday. Im gonna drive my Plymouths flat six banger till it pops then just stick a sb dodge in her.

Screw the ricers, run American iron.

an 8,000 stall converter?? What kind of RPM you planning on truning this thing??? Hope you have a really big check book for those ideas...... I don't see any ricers in my future, I'll stick with the American iron, thank you.

The only import I have ever owned and will ever own is a BMW, kraut-rocket other than that all american Iron or plastic in the case of my camaro.
I would get anouther import but I cannt afford a lambo or a farrari testy.
I can deal with those imports!!!

Otto

4 turbos, 4 boxes, 4 coils, maybe hes gonna run 4 2000 stalls, i dunno

A little off the subject but does anyone have any comparisons on the new vettes vs. the vipers? i heard the vettes gonna run around 500 horse, any truth to that?