Thread: Things That Ruined Drag Racing!

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exactly!!!

greg anderson

Wow!!!!!

Being an old drag racer, and full of fond memories------just a comment about the last three posts---now keep in mind that I am talking about heads up, no breakout racing( sorry DAve) but pro type classes, the ones that prevail at national events and that you watch on TV

John Force, in total contributions over the years, has without a doubt, done more in total for TV coverage and popularity of drag racing and its personalities than anyone---he and his drivers/crew members always have some interesting words/sound bites for the camera---occasionally he -----

Anderson, however, has never smiled or uttered even a single slyable word that has enticed me to spend one dime on something from Pontiac, Summit, Goodyear or a ticket to go to a race-----Jason Line on the other hand shows some potential---Warren and Kurt are another pair thatI won't miss if they disappear

And then there is Shoe---Tony is-----from a racing back ground family of a group that has done more damage to my personnal views of the US Army and the USA than I wish to think about

If there were about 5 more guys like John Force involved in drag racing, NHRA would probably be bigger then NASCAR!!!!! John's never backed down from an interview, and is always the first one at the ropes to spend time with the fans.....

Gotta say that Anderson is one heck of a good racer, but he sure missed in the personality department. Kind of a dry sense of humor that just never comes across well on TV....

No breakout racing???? Yeah, it's great..... I just don't have deep enough pockets or enough sponsorship to do it.... Guess I'd much rather be running a class with a breakout time, or the brackets then not racing at all.... Just got a start on doing the year's bookeeping finals for drag racing, takes a bunch of cash to run, but it isn't even close to what it takes to run a pro car....

As with all forms of motorsports, the good old days are gone and they ain't coming back!!!!! I've got all the respect in the world for Jerry and the others who can sit back and say been there, done that and it was great..... The one's who get me upset are the dude's with no time in any kind of drag car saying how lousy it is cuz of the brackets and breakouts.... and one more time, don't knock it if you haven't tried it!!!!!

I just browsed through this whole thread, and am surprised no one has brought this up.......

What ruined....or is ruining drag racing?

Pinks.........

Or is it?.........I think that Rich Christianson is a total jerk....who stands out there waving his arms like a fool....basically taking the credit for what the racers are doing on that show.....The tracks have all the electronic equipment that was invented just for this purpose, and he insists on grand standing out there with his little army of drones to say if a race was proper or not..........Drama that is not needed and by his actions, condones street racing, as that is what it is intended to duplicate.........


However......the show does put drag racing back on TV....which is a good thing........


Opinions...................

Rich the idiot doesn't make me want to go drag racing or street racing, both of which I enjoy... He makes me want to puke... Good idea for a show, if they'd just use the lights and lose Rich.

I am not a fan of reality shows, and their phoney scripted drama. I have been a race fan since '58, but will change the channel when pinks comes on....(Unless it's the Tucson event, which has some of my paintwork in it) :-)~ I want to watch serious racing, not a pathetic attempt at building excitement.

Anyone else dislike the NHRA "countdown" format? Another attempt at drama. I think a win at the beginning of the year should mean as much as the end, and if you earn more points during the season, you win. No jumping through hoops!

What about Pass Time? Any of you guys watch that? I like it, no drama, just local guys and their cars. Just rodders guessing the et, plus its fun to play at home.

I agree that john force has done tons for drag racing, the guy is a marketing machine.

Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT

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Anyone else dislike the NHRA "countdown" format? Another attempt at drama. I think a win at the beginning of the year should mean as much as the end, and if you earn more points during the season, you win. No jumping through hoops!

I think all this countdown format is another attempt at child pshycology. To try and make a game show out of a racing season, draw in a mystic ora feel, Kinda like Nascar does but not as bad yet.
I like pinks only because they drag race cars, the arm drop, the arguing, I can do without. the always 10 second field is way too old and common. Seen 10 second fields a million times, lets see something else.

Hotroddaddy, I love pass time, watch it every night.

We have a friend/customer who does the pro-street or whatever its called--heads up but with a breakout---tough deal tho----weather machines, delay boxes, etc---but definitely tough to do

We helped a Comp racer run BA/A with a 500 inch hemi, 1380+ horse power---starts regulated by class indexs, but no breakout----but if you run too quick , gets you penalized next round---tough deal also

Count down???? sucks, big time, so bad we're lucky that it doesn't counter balance gravity----used to be you raced to win the round----then if you went far enough, the race---records could only be set at a devisional race and had to be backed up within an hour or the two final rounds at Indy---now any two runs over a 4 day event ------

The top fuel and funny car guys generally do a decent PR job at the big end, the pro stock guys fail miserably and if you have to listen to one of the womens ( erika, angelle) sob stories------makes you want to run right out and buy a motorcycle or car---guess its a good thing or too bad the dealerships are closed on Sunday nights

Professional fuel racing needs to get rid of----- dual magnetoes, 14:71 blowers, clutch timers, spark/timing curves, dual fuel pumps, anything over a two car team( could be one funny, one dragster) data collection should be the timing slip and anything visual the driver/crew saw/felt plus the timing slip
I would be happy to only have the 1/4 numbers---forget the reaction time, 60 ft, 330,1/8, 1000ft numbers

Prostock should run heads available at the dealership, limit valve lift, only one timing adjustment , no controlable shocks, and have spec gear ratios---trans/rearend, and carbon fibre windtunneled bodies??????

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

If there were about 5 more guys like John Force involved in drag racing, NHRA would probably be bigger then NASCAR!!!!! John's never backed down from an interview, and is always the first one at the ropes to spend time with the fans.....

EXACTLY, Nascar is just as good as wrastln. 1 John Force in NHRA is enough . Most racers are in it for the competition and others are in it for a show.

Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver

EXACTLY, Nascar is just as good as wrastln. Most racers are in it for the competition and others are in it for a show.

Oh please...... NASCAR has probably the best drivers, engineers, mechanics, fabricators, engine builders, and chassis people of any form of racing in the world..... It also attracts the most money from sponsors and the biggest crowds and fan following..... Hardly a comparison to wrestling.

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

We have a friend/customer who does the pro-street or whatever its called--heads up but with a breakout---tough deal tho----weather machines, delay boxes, etc---but definitely tough to do

We helped a Comp racer run BA/A with a 500 inch hemi, 1380+ horse power---starts regulated by class indexs, but no breakout----but if you run too quick , gets you penalized next round---tough deal also

Count down???? sucks, big time, so bad we're lucky that it doesn't counter balance gravity----used to be you raced to win the round----then if you went far enough, the race---records could only be set at a devisional race and had to be backed up within an hour or the two final rounds at Indy---now any two runs over a 4 day event ------

The top fuel and funny car guys generally do a decent PR job at the big end, the pro stock guys fail miserably and if you have to listen to one of the womens ( erika, angelle) sob stories------makes you want to run right out and buy a motorcycle or car---guess its a good thing or too bad the dealerships are closed on Sunday nights

Professional fuel racing needs to get rid of----- dual magnetoes, 14:71 blowers, clutch timers, spark/timing curves, dual fuel pumps, anything over a two car team( could be one funny, one dragster) data collection should be the timing slip and anything visual the driver/crew saw/felt plus the timing slip
I would be happy to only have the 1/4 numbers---forget the reaction time, 60 ft, 330,1/8, 1000ft numbers

Prostock should run heads available at the dealership, limit valve lift, only one timing adjustment , no controlable shocks, and have spec gear ratios---trans/rearend, and carbon fibre windtunneled bodies??????

That all sounds good Jerry....would be great and make it more affordable for a lot of folks.....but it just ain't gonna happen....

I keep hoping they'll do something to slow the fuel cars down, but everytime they try something the teams just improve things somewhere else.... Afraid the Pro classes are going to stay the domain of the big teams.....at least until fan and sponsor support dictates otherwise....

I like Pinks All-OUt. Great shows, draw huge crowds and give the racers a chance at 10 Grand plus an 8000 tool box. Plus the chance to bet against one another. They are drawing 400+ cars per event for I think a $35 entry fee. I disagree that it encourages street racing, the goal, besides making money of course is to bring Street racing to the track. I think it's going in the right direction. Rich is kinda full of himself, but I think he is learning to tone it down, and his crew of knowledgable guys is pretty good. I have talked with folks that have been to the events and raced in them and they loved it, great shows and great racing.

Pat

things that ruined drag racing:

guys complaining about what ruined drag racing?


i agree with jerry and dave,

jerry: racing should step back 20-30 years its more fun to see gear banging cars hoppin and bouncing down the 1320 then it is a glide auto delay box pile. and of course the fuel cars were not only beautiful works of art they hauled some ass to!

dave: i understand the brackets were to help people afford to race but sometimes it seems like just to stay competitve there you also need big $ for the electronics and fancy chassis set ups