Thread: Tech inspections
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02-21-2007 02:22 PM #1
Tech inspections
So whats your thoughts on tech inspections at the drag strip? Do most strips inspect the cars? Are they strict if they do inspect?
Just wondering, the tracks around here don't care, they leave it up top the person racing. You can pretty much race what you bring. I don't have seatbelts (yet) in my 55 (only raced 3 times) and didn't wear a helment the first two times only running 95 mph or so. I see 9 second cars with no roll cage..........9 second cars with drum brakes.............I mean they don't even look at your tires to see if they are bad. Should it be up to the people or should track officials look out for peoples safety.
I am not talking about the experienced racers, really talking about the people who are not aware or don't care what kind of condition their cars is in.
It would actualy be helpful for the experienced racers..........it would keep the inexperienced racers from getting beside you in a race and..................Last edited by chevydrivin; 02-21-2007 at 05:18 PM.
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02-21-2007 02:57 PM #2
9 second cars with no roll cage?...........I would think that they are experienced racers.....if they are running 9 second 1/4 miles.
9 second cars with disc brakes?.........What would they have other than disk brakes.
It's not much of a track if they have no inspections...........I wouldn't race there.
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02-21-2007 04:14 PM #3
Is it a sanctioned race track?
Disc Brakes? "That's a good thing''."PLAN" your life like you will live to 120.
"LIVE" your life like you could die tomorrow.
John 3:16
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02-21-2007 04:38 PM #4
I raced at at track in North Carolina one time that was like that. I was used to Tech Inspections at our Pennsyvania track, but when I got to the track in NC all you did was pay your entry fee and race. Seemed a little strange to me at the time, but I kind of wrote it off to the track being an outlaw track, not sanctioned by any formal group.
Not a good thing, and not too far removed from Saturday night street racing.
Don
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02-21-2007 04:52 PM #5
If there's no tech, then you probably don't have to sign a waiver or release either. In the event of an incident, who pays? Your insurance company will yell foul because you are racing and the track owner will disavow any liability because he probably has no insurance. If faced with a suit, he would probably just fold up and do something else for a while.PLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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02-21-2007 05:24 PM #6
I'm sure some will say what a good deal it is not having to put up with tech inspections. I think for the safety of the new guys, especially the young ones who still suffer from the invincibility complex, there should be some sort of inspection. Belts and helmets should be an absolute minimum. I can't imagine running without seat belts and a helmet, things do break and things do happen fast at 95 MPH.... I suppose racing there is fine, but I'm sure I would have the safety equipment on me and installed in the car that would give me a chance at surviving!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-21-2007 05:27 PM #7
You do sign a waiver before you enter. The two tracks I have been to are like that. 10 bucks car/driver in the country. around 15 to 20 in the city. I did edit my origanal post, ment to say drum brakes in a 9 second car. Some people should simply be band from the track, like the guy who pulled beside me in a stock 90 model mustang that was raged out. He was hanging out his DOOR in the water box watching his back right tire spin. The track official was trying to get his attention to tell him to cut it out, but he wasn't having any of that. After the light went green I just let him go. He told me later in the pits that he had just bought the car that very afternoon.................To bad our tracks aren't a little more stricked....................................
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02-21-2007 06:16 PM #8
now as being part of a flegeling outlaw track, tech is important, we are abiding with the nhra book as much as we can,i have already had the discussion about my car as i dont have a true bar and its a convertable no under 13.5 pass, the second that it happens i will be advised to either put a block under the pedal or no race.
i agree with this completly and also participate in the tech inspections, the guys that racew all the time at nhra tracks have all the bases covered as they have been through it, the ones to watch for are the guy who dust off the old hot rod from the back yard. some are pretty good others need work and we have turned guys away and encourage some to come as early for tech as if its a minor thing we send them home to fix it and tell them to get their butts back and if they pass well get them in the line.
try to be nice to the guys if you have to fail them and try to help give them advice to get the car in shape to pass.
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02-21-2007 07:13 PM #9
I've been know to grouse about getting a car ready for tech either my own or a customers.....but every rule has a reason ,usually based on some catastrophic event in the past. The rules are there for a reason.
unfortunatly if left strictly to the racers,no matter how safe YOUR car is if the guy in the other lane has a problem it can quickly also become yours or a spectators.
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02-22-2007 07:19 AM #10
I think some NHRA requirements have gotten a little out of hand as well as the egos of some inspectors. Luckily our track still uses common sense for the most part. Its a shame how they are puttin' it to racers. For a small example, new belts every two years. SFI is a bit silly IMO.
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02-22-2007 07:32 AM #11
A new set of belts every two years is ok by me, not a major expense in the upkeep of a drag car. If you saw some of the seat belts these clowns show up with otherwise you would understand the reason for the rule. Some get left in the car when the car is washed on the inside, others are old, soaked in oil, etc. As Mike said, every rule has a reason for being....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-22-2007 07:46 AM #12
I should re-phrase my comment by saying that some rules steming from SFI are a bit silly for slower cars . However, I do feel a sense of safety when I buy an sfi approved part.
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02-22-2007 08:58 AM #13
Originally Posted by bcrector
I'm speaking, of course, of those at reputable strips.
Aw, you'll occasionally run across some self-important dude who feels that unless he finds something wrong he has failed in his responsibility, and just HAS to make note of some "concerns". Like, one guy wrote us up because I used a 3/8" stove bolt (instead of a "grade-something or better") as a pivot for our hand brake lever. With due respect, I would have had to really pull like the devil to shear that bolt. That recommendation was listed under "descretionary comments".
But all in all, I'm grateful to the people who volunteer their time and expertise to do that job.
JimLast edited by Big Tracks; 02-22-2007 at 01:23 PM.
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02-22-2007 10:43 AM #14
I like the OUTLAW tracks because its a free country ...if you want to jump out of a airplane you can,if you want to climb a sheer rock face with out a rope you can and if you want to die in a car on saturday night you can do that also. I have seen some of these tracks in the midwest and I can tell ya they are unsafe....but there should be tracks like this in a free country,just be aware that you are at one and be careful.
The approved or teched tracks should be here too ,with the SFI rated and inspected rides with safety gear galore to keep you and the guy in the other lane safe.But if you want to race at a outlaw track that should be available too.
No matter how many laws we make and no matter how far we run the smokers off ,we are still gunna die and get sick and wreck perfect sfi teched cars.
I feel the individual needs to take responsibility for his or hers own actions,its not the governments fault ,its not the polices fault and its sure not the track owners fault for someone being a moron and having an unsafe ride.When he goes down the track and dies its his fault ,not anyone elses fault,its not A.D.D. its not osamas fault and its not because of the war......its simply a personal issue and to force these morons into conformity is only helping destroy common sense and the ability to rationally think.The idiots will thin themselves out....but not if we force them into compliance,they will learn nothing on there own and only become acustomed to being catered to in the form of protection from there own lack of common sense and they will pass this down to there kids in the form of no common sense.
Ohh one more thing.....why is there no k rail down the middle of the 2 1/4 mile lanes 6 foot apart that 2 people are doing 150 to 280 mph down ?A out of controll car does not care if a solid yellow is suppose to represent a wall.Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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02-22-2007 01:30 PM #15
I cant believe tracks with poor/no tech still exist in our litigious society. Her in cali a 'signed release' isnt worth the paper its written on. Promoters cant require someone to release liablity from what will surely be perceived by the court as negligence. Bottomfeeding lawyers would eat that up. Ive only experienced tech at sacramento, famoso, and sears point and all were good with sac not always being as consistent but not anything I would consider unsafe. But one thing I didnt like was the fact that everyone knew the sac fire truck needed a jump for the first start of the day and would usually be blocked behind other vehicles. That was back in the day and has since been taken care of. OBTW ive helped tech and if a stove bolt was used in the braking system and the rules clearly stated that a grade bolt was to be used I would have required that it be corrected before it ran.
im just sayin
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