Thread: fuel cell protection
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05-25-2007 10:17 PM #1
fuel cell protection
What should one do to put a actual fuel cell in a t bucket and keet it nhra legal. not much in the book about it. I dont know if it needs to be shielded or not, like a cell that sits below a lower trunk line or not, or if it is within the frame rails that it would be ok.
i have seen some pickups pics on the net with fuel cells below the box behind the frame rails and they dont have any protection at all.
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05-25-2007 10:31 PM #2
As long as it's an NHRA approved fuel cell inside of the perimeter of the frame and not in the driver's compartment it should be ok... If it's in the rear, got to have a bar or a bumper behind it. If I remember right that's about all there is for requirements.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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05-26-2007 08:38 AM #3
thanks dave for the response, the reason why i asked this was cause the head of our tech committee told me the entire tank would have to be sheeted in , i thought he was full of it and when i read the rulebook it didnt say much about it.
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05-26-2007 06:12 PM #4
he's full of it. 90% of the bracket cars I've seen just have the usual plastic fuel tank in the trunk, with a firewall between the trunk and driver's compartment. Think he's reading a lot of things into the rule book. Most dirt car rule books require a can for the fuel cell. Maybe he's an ex-circle burner or something.....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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05-26-2007 09:44 PM #5
I would say if anything the shielding would be illegal. Similar to running fuel lines inside the frame. If you spring a leak in the fuel system you could have allot of fuel in the frame ( or shielding) before the leak is noticed. Big kaboom if it ignites. ................ But I could be all wrong."PLAN" your life like you will live to 120.
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05-26-2007 10:46 PM #6
Depends on whether or not it's poly or metal. On a doorslammer with a metal tank, all you need is a locking cap (NON-VENTED), a vent line to outside the car and make sure the tank is grounded to the frame with your mounting bolts. The trunk will need to be sealed off from the driver's compartment with sheet metal, either 0.024" steel or 0.032" aluminum, including the shelf panel. The metal tank can be altogether in the trunk or part of it can be outside the trunk sheet metal with no further protection.
A poly tank is a different animal. If it is mounted totally in the trunk, then a locking cap (NON-VENTED) and ground wire from the metal ring which surrounds the fill to a frame member will work. Again, the driver's compartment must be sealed from the trunk with sheet metal, including the shelf panel. If part of the poly tank sticks through the trunk floor, it must be covered with 0.024" steel or 0.032" aluminum on the front, sides and bottom with the exception of the area where the sump is and the supply and return lines hook up. The idea here is that while the metal tank can take a hit from rocks or other debris thrown up by the tires, the poly tank may not be able to take the same hit without rupturing.
You will not have to worry about isolating the tank from the driver's compartment because there is no way to do it. Just vent the tank to the bottom of the car, run your ground wire if it's poly, use a locking (NON-VENTED) cap and build the metal box around it if it's poly and sticks through to where it could be damaged by rocks or debris. You may want to investigate the use of an automatic shutoff valve on the vent line in the event you get upside down. I can only imagine what it would be like to be upside down with my bell rung and start smelling fuel.PLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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05-26-2007 10:53 PM #7
see above....Last edited by techinspector1; 05-26-2007 at 11:00 PM.
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