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Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver

You mean Don Garbage,lol. Don knows nothin.
I dont think that will do much for drag racing. IMO , they need to limit teams and sponsors. How can a new comer compete with the field dominated by 2 teams , there no chance at all. You can slow them down all you want but when a team is dominating the class their dominating the class. If your going 50MPH or 300MPH theres no room to get in. Its been that way for years now. The teams and NHRA have lock them selves in and locked everyone else out.

Put your money where your mouth is, Garlits has forgotten more about drag racing than you'll ever know.

Originally Posted by NTFDAY

Put your money where your mouth is, Garlits has forgotten more about drag racing than you'll ever know.

It was a inside joke , calm down. Hes done a lot.

Inside joke??? Just who the heck is it you raced with that would possibly lead to a statement saying things like that about Garlits???? His accomplishments and innovations are legendary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Inside joke??? Just who the heck is it you raced with that would possibly lead to a statement saying things like that about Garlits???? His accomplishments and innovations are legendary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Dave You said it better than I could.

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Inside joke??? Just who the heck is it you raced with that would possibly lead to a statement saying things like that about Garlits???? His accomplishments and innovations are legendary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok.

that's what I figured

Originally Posted by dave severson

that's what i figured

ok

Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver

You mean Don Garbage,lol. Don knows nothin.
I dont think that will do much for drag racing. IMO , they need to limit teams and sponsors.

I'll take offense to your statement above!
I think Don has forgotten more than you've ever known!

As far as limits are concerned, it's nothing new! I remember when Mark Martin and his wife "technically owned" the number 17 driven by Matt Kenseth. And even today did you know the "technically" Jeff Gordon owns the # 48 driven by Jimmie Johnson? So go ahead, add some team ownership limits, there are ways around that one!

And you want Sponsor limits too!?!? How would you expect guys to pay for all this? I think you need to think this one over some more!

Originally Posted by 34_40

I'll take offense to your statement above!
I think Don has forgotten more than you've ever known!

As far as limits are concerned, it's nothing new! I remember when Mark Martin and his wife "technically owned" the number 17 driven by Matt Kenseth. And even today did you know the "technically" Jeff Gordon owns the # 48 driven by Jimmie Johnson? So go ahead, add some team ownership limits, there are ways around that one!

And you want Sponsor limits too!?!? How would you expect guys to pay for all this? I think you need to think this one over some more!

Well some thing has to be done to level the playing field. How does one go up against one of the "giants", you cant? For instance how many chassis can you take, complete cars? Most probably have about 4 complete cars and 8 complete motors and 6-8 18 wheelers. Is that neccesary? Hell if you cant do it with 2 chassis you should go home for the weekend. Not be allowed to keep throwing cars in to win. That takes a lot of the challenge out of the game. The challenge is to make sure that your 1 car is consistant enough to take every one out.
Its just turned into a gaint money monster and pretty much has locked everyone out and everyone in. Heck its even predictable and anyone that knows fuel cars knows they are a long way from predictable. heck I havent paid attention to drag racing in years , it just got boring. I do love the older stuff though with a passion.

As far as Don goes well I have seen better and there is better ,even though he has done a lot. He just dont do it for me.

the nick name don garbage goes back along ways thats all i know. but i have this reasoning about me,

unless someone has ripped me off or pissed me off, what the hell do i care what he does!?

[QUOTE=BigTruckDriver;368804]Well some thing has to be done to level the playing field. How does one go up against one of the "giants", you cant?

The challenge is to make sure that your 1 car is consistant enough to take every one out.

Its just turned into a gaint money monster and pretty much has locked everyone out and everyone in.
heck I havent paid attention to drag racing in years , it just got boring. I do love the older stuff though with a passion.QUOTE]

Level field was supposed to be the same size engine, same size tire and same weight cars. Now we also have to control aerodynamics. How much more can you do? In the Top Fuel classes, they almost all run the same engine. In Pro Stocks it all comes down to 3 or 4 engines that everyone is using. How much more level can it be?

Is it really more about some owner having deeper pockets so he/they needs to be reined in? I remember when John Force started a second team and they were successful. Then a third and now a fourth! Other teams were actually created to beat Force at his own game! I think it was good for the sport at the time.

Yet, it still comes back to the owner who can sign a sponsor up! He who has the most money wins! Ask around and see how many people despise Jack Rousch for putting together 5 cup teams! Not to mention the other teams he runs. It's incredible that he could/can do it and should he be penalized for it? I don't think so. IHMO.

I don't have the answer for sure! If I did I'd be kicking Jack Rousch off the mountain! It always was and always will be about money, it takes a bunch of it to be at the top and to stay there.

I don't think I'll ever find auto racing boring. When that day comes I'll have to run out into the traffic!

Cutting the sponsor's would be very counterproductive!!!!! Got to have sponsors to make a racing program even possible!!! I'm really anxious to hear the results of the tests they did with the small blowers, single mags, and the other things to lower the power... If you lower the power you lessen the parts breakage...If you lessen the parts breakage then racing becomes more affordable.... Then how many cars a team has could concievably become secondary to the main issue of making the best 3 or 4 qualifying passes you can put together to even make the field!!!! And, like Jerry said in a previous post---go back to a 32 car field!!!! Just say for instance that through whatever means they cut the horsepower of a top fuel car in half!!!! They'd still be in the 4's, and think how much more affordable a 4 second car is vs. a 3 second car!!!!! When's the last time some no name local type team snuck into a Pro Class on their home track and actually went a couple rounds?????

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Cutting the sponsor's would be very counterproductive!!!!! Got to have sponsors to make a racing program even possible!!! I'm really anxious to hear the results of the tests they did with the small blowers, single mags, and the other things to lower the power... If you lower the power you lessen the parts breakage...If you lessen the parts breakage then racing becomes more affordable.... Then how many cars a team has could concievably become secondary to the main issue of making the best 3 or 4 qualifying passes you can put together to even make the field!!!! And, like Jerry said in a previous post---go back to a 32 car field!!!! Just say for instance that through whatever means they cut the horsepower of a top fuel car in half!!!! They'd still be in the 4's, and think how much more affordable a 4 second car is vs. a 3 second car!!!!! When's the last time some no name local type team snuck into a Pro Class on their home track and actually went a couple rounds?????

Hey, that sounds good.

how can NHRA hope to attract sponsership when a supposed professional raceing searies gets bumped on tv by a bunch of discusting children playing a one ball sport whos bigest attraction is catching them spitting on the ground
I no longer even try to watch NHRA

I find this thread really interesting, guys. Are we just missing the good old days? I'll go out on a limb here, but it would be safe to say that "American Graffiti" has got to be in the top 5 movie list of most if not #1 favorite here. And most of us are living the "life" in some way, still.
As for pro racing... never gave it a thought. Like when I learned to ski after age 50... never gave the Olympics a thought. And an afternoon of softball never got me thinking about being in the big October Show.
Drag racing has been the one thing still available to the ordinary guy. We watch "All Out", right? Not seeing big bucks there. I've been participating in ANRA events here in SoCal. Nostalgia racing... brackets, gas classes, open wheel and eliminator classes 1,2,and 3. Lots of fun, and still affordable. Expensive yes, but still within reach. It seems to me that the thrill is still there and any of us can jump in. Who cares what those pro guys are doing on TV anyway?