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Oh yeah, that Monte hood goes all the way back to the windshield and hides the wipers, right??? How's about if you put the purge line up through the left front fender right by the hood?? You'd still get a good visual when you hit the purge button but at least you wouldn't be risking a big 'ol crack in the windshield?

Yeah, the hood does hide the wipers but there's louvers in the hood. I just wire tied it for now and pointed it away from the windshield. I was figuring a more permanent way of doing that but shoot, it works for now.

Can two Nos bottles be mounted and teed off together at once? Or should I just change em at the track?

Ohhyeah, Any more ideas about more speed without changing the engine? I about done anything I can think of. speed shop wouldn't sell me a looser converter. Said I wouldn't dig it. Said I needed a nitro purge and a tranny gauge worse.

You've probably gone enough times to know this by now, but the more shallow you stage the car, the better your et's and trap speeds will be.Trip the first yellow and then just get the second one to flicker. Then get on your brake/converter whatever your routine is. That will give you the best 'rolling start' possible.

Yeah, i'm still trying for a consistent launch. I get so knotted up inside I can't seem to do everything right every time.
I'm working still on the stage light routine. I'm revving to 1500 and holding the brake pedal, hitting the gas and flicking the nitro main switch.

I'm wondering if I should put a solenoid on the front brake line instead of holding the pedal.
Then I can just concentrate on the go pedal.

I'd say you'd do better with the line lock in there.... Might also want to consider a brake pressure gauge so you can get your brake pressure the same for staging every time!!!! Consistency is the biggest thing in getting the car to launch right and going rounds. Establish a routine that works for you and your car then stick to it. Do the same thing in the same order each and every time, as it becomes a matter of habit the nerves settle down and you'll start seeing much more consistency from pass to pass.... The nerves get the old adrenalin pump going, the knees start shaking, and it gets really tough to make the car work the same every round.

One thing I do, when I'm at the front of staging and the pair ahead is just in the water box I close my eyes, do some deep breathing and visualize everything I'm going to do to when I stage the car....Got to learn to get your head and your body to relax during the staging process......

Tranny brake....................??????????

Wouldn't suggest a trans brake if you need the car as a driver, on a heavy car like that Monte they will brake parts!!!! Driving off the converter works great 'til you get into some 2500 pound and under cars that are running in the 10's..... The no brake, no box classes are really gaining popularity because it's a whole lot cheaper to build and run a car like this.

Well he said launch so a line lock won't do the job a brake does.Certainly heavy cars expose weak links in the car.

A line lock only keeps the car from creeping through the beam, not much to do with the launch other then to stop the roll thrus and deep stage by accident.

So, Do I need the brake line lock? If so, I better get one before I run out of surplus cash again. So far I got I got the purge, tranny gauge and the nitrous blow-hole safety tube. I want to get all the non-fun alterations done first and if I'm gonna put one in it's now. But, does one use that only during burn-out? Or can it help in my inconsistent launches.

Yeah, I'd do the line lock for sure!!! and strongly suggest a stage gauge to go along with it.... Anything to make staging an automatic and get your head in the tree.......

OK, I'll do the line lock then. Pardon my stupidity but what's a Stage gauge?

Just a brake pressure gauge that is hooked into your brake system between the line lock and the front brakes. Put it low on the dash. When you figure out how much line pressure it takes to hold the car in the beams, then get that pressure every pass. Eliminates the possibility of staging without enough pressure on the front brakes, then as you build up the rpm the car can creep deep into the 2nd beam giving you a deep stage, or on a really bad day a big 'ol RED light!!!! Just one more thing to help that consistency.

Something we did was write a list. For instance,
1. 6 second burnout
2. Pull alongside starter, check gauges
3. Pre-stage & watch other side for Pre-stage
4. Stage @ XXXX RPM
5. Launch

Or some semblance of that. If you set the order right, it is an easy way to help you focus and concentrate! Best of all it's cheap!
And it does help! Hang it where you can review it Before & After the burnout and help build your confidence.

Originally Posted by Good Wrench

So, Do I need the brake line lock? If so, I better get one before I run out of surplus cash again. So far I got I got the purge, tranny gauge and the nitrous blow-hole safety tube. I want to get all the non-fun alterations done first and if I'm gonna put one in it's now. But, does one use that only during burn-out? Or can it help in my inconsistent launches.

You right.Line locks are normally used for burnouts and to hold a car from rolling in the lights.It takes more than one application of the brake peddle normally to get to the line pressure to hold the car.So you stage the car,then pump the brake peddle two or three times,then hold down the button,then manage the gas peddle so the rear tires don't break loose,then release the button on the flash of the last yellow.

Now go around the water box and only do a short stab on the gas before staging just to scrub the street tires clean.Street tires don't like getting heated up in a burnout.In fact they have less traction after a burnout and if that is one thing you been doing would add to the inconsistency.

To explain the plus side of tranny brakes and the minus side is like this.

The trans brake have a solenoid that is installed inside the trans that puts the trans in reverse and first at the sametime.So it is locking up the trans while the car is already staged.Just push the button.All the brakes are released already and it allows you to bring the engine up to the stall of your convertor with out spinning the rear wheels.Well within the limits of your engines ability.You floor board the gas.When you release the button it releases the solenoid that is holding reverse and acts like as if you where popping a clutch on a stick shift car the same way every time.So you consecrate on staging the car in the lights the same place everytime.It's release time is the same everytime.(very,very,fast providing no problems with the trans etc)

The downside:
It costs more to install
It is hard on parts with a heavy car which is just a matter of time before you break the weaker parts.

The upside
It is more consistent providing the car is staged in the same way everytime
It is faster than the release of brakes
It is simpler to use by just stage the car,press a button,floor the gas.No pumping up the brakes.
It allows you to concentrate more on the lights because it is simpler.

I foot braked raced for many many yrs.I think the key either way is to stage the car the same way everytime.Over time you get used to staging the car it becomes apart of you.Some of the best nights I ever had was those when I felt I melted into the car and the car and I was one.The car was a extension of me.A zone if you will.You just get so comfortable with it,it becomes automatic and a whole lot of fun.Just relax.It will come.