Time frames are different---like comparing George Washington and Abe Lincoln(certainly not Abe and O'Bama((who keeps referencing Lincoln))

We competed against Garlits and as much as we were known amoung the racers for innovation, Garlits was always raising the bar (and generally he was 2-3000 miles from home) while we were right there in California where we had access to all the manufactures and builders( we were a budjet team of two airline employees transplanted from Illinois) No big sponserships back in those days

Back then it wasn't the number of NATIONAL events you won , because there was just ONE NATIONAL, Indy---They have more national events in one year now than I probably competed in!!!!

The country was pretty devided back then---west coast against the rest of the country--we were told that we'd find it pretty hard to compete against those guys but we did and grudgingly were accepted with time-----