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well i went down to my dads farm to pick up my 455 motor for my t bucket. its in a 72 olds 88 and the car was parked outdoors for approx 4 years. i didnt prep the engine for storage when i parked it and now the engine was locked.
pulled the pugs filled with diesl fuel and was able to budge the motor a little bit after that approx 15 degrees but then solid
decided to put the plugs back in and filled the whole motor and pan full of diesl to the brim and will wait a couple of weeks and will see what happens.
how badly can cyl walls be damaged by freeing a storage locked motor would rings be seized in the pistons etc will the unit pump oil now.
anybody else have this kind if fun before.
i probably could have avoided this by glugging a gallon of diesl down the carb when i parked the darned thing in the first place.

Ur prolly wanna hone the cylenders, re ring the pistions and at least check the block for cracks and make shure the oil pump works ( Drill prime it with valve covers off, if oil comes up to the rockers, it works ). I'd say screw the smogger motor and get somthing '71 or pre '71, save the hastle of fixing/ paying for machine work on a screwed up motor. If it was somthing like a caddy 500 or 472, I'd say it'd be worth fixing but not just another olds 455 which was offered in most full size olds like a delta 88.

well you know you must be a mind reader i am looking at a 75 caddy down the street i think it had a 472 in it. that runs good. what kind of power would one of these put out and i think in could use a olds 400 tranny behind it. i am going to offer 500.00 for the whole car and see if the guy jumps at as its been stored for a few years. ill make shure its turns over 1st.

Originally posted by techinspector1
Chances are real good that the car has a 500 in it. I don't think Cad used the 472 after 1974.

I think your right there Richard. And Al, the horsepower isn't really high, but the torque is phenominal. They make one heck of a street motor.

I don't know if you guys read Hot Rod, but several years ago they took a full size Cad with a 500 and kept cutting parts off it until it was basically a bare frame with a cowl seat and dash, steering wheel, and finally ended up turning 10 second quarter mile times. It was hilarious reading the article.

Originally posted by Streets
Well Duane.. She would giggle because she would be thinkin' of "Please Don't let me drown, Duane the tub please..."

Not the first time I've heard that one in my 58 years, Streets. Don't worry, it's never bothered me. Heck if you can't have a sense of humor then you shouldn't have a life.

Originally posted by techinspector1
Chances are real good that the car has a 500 in it. I don't think Cad used the 472 after 1974.

Yup, 75-76 full size Cadillacs all had 500s. They have lotsa torque and bulid it all at lower RPM, don't need to rev them over about 4500. They are also comparitively light, actually lighter than a big block Chevy. There is also a growing aftermarket of high performance parts.

Cruise over to Maximum Torque Specialties at

http://www.500cid.com/

They have lots of info there and some very helpful folks on their forum

Pat

If you really wanted to go bucks up on a Caddy 500 Bulldog Performance www.bulldogperformance.net has just come out with aluminum heads with 260cc intake ports, 76cc chambers,2.19/1.84 valves and they flow 307 and 235 cfm on the intake and exhaust side, respectively. but man are they pricey ($1695 bare and $2145 assembled))

well i offered my neghbor 500.00 for the car its a 73 eldorado with a 500 and looks like i got it . rebult approx 12 years and 30,000 mile ago runs good doesnt move oil .
now as far as i know a olds 400 tranny will bolt right up to this ( i got 3 now)
as the car is a fwd and the engine is going into a t bucket style frame all i have to figure out is engine mounts nothing the welder cant buzz up . the cars a pretty nice unit to strip down , ill get a good buck for the hulk though. looks like it will weigh a couple tons.
anyone know what kind of stock hp this engine puts out, i would guess 300 or 350 with gobs of torque.
i am going to have fun with this!!!!!!!!!

I actully think it may be closer to ither 400 or 250-300 horse but, gobs of torque.

Hmm tech I've got an old chevy luv truck and a 73 ols toronado that was hit real hard in the back I was just thinking of scraping them but now I just might keep them

Originally posted by canadianal
well i offered my neghbor 500.00 for the car its a 73 eldorado with a 500 and looks like i got it . rebult approx 12 years and 30,000 mile ago runs good doesnt move oil .
now as far as i know a olds 400 tranny will bolt right up to this ( i got 3 now)
as the car is a fwd and the engine is going into a t bucket style frame all i have to figure out is engine mounts nothing the welder cant buzz up . the cars a pretty nice unit to strip down , ill get a good buck for the hulk though. looks like it will weigh a couple tons.
anyone know what kind of stock hp this engine puts out, i would guess 300 or 350 with gobs of torque.
i am going to have fun with this!!!!!!!!!

Man that's a great score. With the Eldorado you get the rear sump pan which is the one everyone wants for swaps. If you already have the turbo 400 you should be good to go. Be sure and check in over at the forum I linked to before. Those guys can give you all kind advice on the big Cad, but it should be pretty simple swap going into a bucket. My guess is you will be able to scare yourself real good with that thing in stock trim.

Keep us posted on your project.

Pat

Originally posted by techinspector1
WAIT, you said front wheel drive???? It's an Eldorado then. You've hit the jackpot. Save that front drive unit to put in the rear of a mini-pickup........Like this........

. Richard

Or for something else wild build one of these:

http://208.36.30.226/porsche/

Sorry it's not in a friendlier viewing format, but the engineering is worth the time it takes to look through them

Pat

Here you guy's go, here's some true facts about the 1970 cadillac 500 engine.

http://www.100megsfree4.com/cadillac/cad1970/cad70e.htm

~ Vegas ~