Thread: Intake manifold and Carb
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04-20-2005 03:11 PM #1
Intake manifold and Carb
As most of you know I just purchased this 66 Ford truck and I am now wanting to buy a nice intake manifold and carb. Anyone have any good idea's on what kind to get to get some good HP but also good for street. The engine is a 302, and all I know is the insides is not stock and has a big cam but not sure what all is done since the guy that sold it to me didn't do the work or nothing and didn't know either (yeah stupid huh?). I would like to get a 4 barrel carb on it as well so what size, etc?
Thanks for any info and if you need more on the engine or anything then let me know and I'll do my best to tell you what else is involved here.
Shawn-www.streamlineautocare.com
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04-20-2005 03:16 PM #2
I'd check out Edelbrock and look for a good dual plain manifold and a 450-600 CFM carb. If you aren't sure of the cam, start conservative.---Tom
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04-20-2005 03:23 PM #3
Thanks swifster. My father said to look for a nice high rise Edelbrock or some air flow one kind of like a high rise. But not sure. I wan't to check around and get more info before I just go buy something.
Thanks again.www.streamlineautocare.com
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04-20-2005 04:17 PM #4
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake and 600 Edelbrock carb work great on a 302. Buy the tune up kit for the carb so you can get the springs and needles dialed in right. If you don't like the Edelbrock carb, use a 600 Holley with vacuum secondaries. Don't over carb the truck.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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04-20-2005 05:06 PM #5
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04-20-2005 07:14 PM #6
Ok cool. Dave I will look into that. Denny told me to find out my vac first before I do anything and I don't have a vac gauge so can't yet until I find all my sensors and all for my Cyberdyne gauges. What are the vacuum secondaries, like is there different kinds of secondaries that come in on different times or what? If so then which Holley 600 would be best and what do you mean by a kit, I looked in summit and didn't see no kit...
Sorry for all these questions, I just am not sure on this kind of thing.
Thanks again!www.streamlineautocare.com
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04-20-2005 07:18 PM #7
Vara4, I like the site you sent I may go with that intake and then the carb they recommend. I am going to hold on this for another two weeks or so and wait until I get some more info on this and more comments, etc.www.streamlineautocare.com
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04-20-2005 07:39 PM #8
Shawn, the tune up kit for the Edelbrock carb consist of different springs and needles to control when the vacuum operated secondaries open. Check out the Edelbrock web site, lots of good info there. I believe it is just www.edelbrock.comYesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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04-20-2005 07:46 PM #9
Alright sweet, your the man Dave. heh What would you recommend, a Holley or Edelbrock? I don't wan't no crappy one and I also don't wan't some big radical one that you would use on some race engine either, kind of inbetween like a street and SOME strip. Any idea on how this will have an effect on my gas milage and all? Worse, better?www.streamlineautocare.com
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04-20-2005 07:59 PM #10
A good intake and carb should not hurt your gas mileage, if anything it should help it if you tune the carb correctly. I prefer the Edelbrock carbs for the street, and Holley's for racing. But hey, that's just me. I can make a Holley work just as well, but in my opinion an Edelbrock takes less tuning and tinkering once you get it calibrated. The Edelbrocks come with a book that will explain all the fine tuning principles and procedures in detail.
The 600 Edelbrock is a part #1406, and I believe a 600 Holley is a part # 1850-2, not sure on the Holley, someone will correct me if I'm wrong. The Edelbrock site has a section explaing how their carbs work, might want to look at it.Last edited by Dave Severson; 04-20-2005 at 08:04 PM.
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04-20-2005 08:04 PM #11
I would go with the Edelbrock intake and carb buy the tune up kit
so you can dial in the carb to match your motor. The instructions
that come with the carb explain how to do it.TEAMWORK is essential, it allows you to blame someone else!
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04-20-2005 08:18 PM #12
Ok well then that is what I will do. I hear Edelbrocks stuff is good for street anyways from tons of people. Thanks a lot guy's! I emailed Edelbrock to see what application they think would be good now and hopefully I will hear back from them in a day or two.
You guys are great though, thanks for all the help on everything!www.streamlineautocare.com
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04-20-2005 08:55 PM #13
FMX; I agree with Dave about the carbs, and Edelbrock does make a good intake. But I have heard nothing but good stuff about the weind stealth Intake. Even read a artical, how they changed the heads and put a stealth intake on and got 400HP out of a 302 with only 9 to 1 compression, Very Impressive!
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0307_ford/
~ Vegas ~
Have you drivin a old Ford lately?
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04-21-2005 02:47 PM #14
Ok guys here is the Email I got back from Edelbrock concerning what they think I should put on this engine. I told them my tranny and engine set up, the truck, etc. Here is what they told me to do...
Use Performer intake PN # 2121 and a 500 cfm carb PN # 1403.
500 cfm though... Seems a bit small don't you think? I thought a 600 but oh well. I told them that it's going to be street and some strip use (even though the truck may barely EVER see the strip) but I didn't wan't them to tell me to get some little intake and carb setup for sissys haha. 400 HP out of a 302 would be nice though geeze.
What do you think on the email he sent me? Sound good or what? I would go with the stealth intake but I need to read more on it. I think the Edelbrock stuff sounds good in a way too. I will see.www.streamlineautocare.com
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04-21-2005 04:17 PM #15
does anyone ehre know how to fix a holley or is it generically edelbrock like its always 350 is it now always edelbrock
Thank you Roger. .
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