Thread: What is the smallest Hemi??

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I know there are some 4 bangers out there,but what is the
smallest V8 size wise? (demensions) I belive the 241 was
smallest displacement.

There are probably several other hemi V8 engines out in the world that are physically smaller than the Red Ram Dodge of 241 cubes. They would all be foreign. Here are some examples;

Daimler SP 250 roadster had a 2.5L (153 ci to us yanks) hemi, pretty compact. See a picture at the below link.

http://www.sportscarmarket.com/profi...nuary/English/

A Simca Vedette hemi, about the same displacement and hp as the Daimler, see it's relative size in the wav video.

http://www.thehemi.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1520

Toyota makes a similar sized hemi V8 for the Japanese market, powers limousines if I recall correctly. Couldn't find an internet link with a quick search, maybe someone with more time could feret one out. There have been two street rods, both T buckets, that I've seen pictures of that used this engine. One was out of Texas, the other I think was Arizona.

From what I was able to find out the Toyota Hemi was produced from 1970 to 1982. The displacements were 3.4L (207 CI) and 3.8L (231 CI) made 170-200 HP respectively and weighed approximatly 250 pounds (all aluminum).

There's a bit of a write up on them in Tex Smiths Hemi Engine manual.

I actually saw one of these go on E Bay once a couple of years ago, but you could be in for a LONG search.

You mean the 4 bangers that came in the Corolla's?

The 241 is my favorite engine. I put one in a '39 IHC pickup in the '60's. Went like stink!

"... You mean the 4 bangers that came in the Corolla's?...."

NO these were a V8 Hemi that as Bob said were made for Japanese market and used to power Toyota limousines.

I've been rethinking my chop and after all i do thers this smaller
version of a 49 ford. an old hemi or flathead under the hood
might be neet. If I don't have to mod to many things

Is this a quiz question on what was the smallest hemi V8 or what is a reasonable transplant into a '49 Ford? On another post we are reminded that there was a very rare set of Ardun hemi-heads for the Ford V8-60 from ''39-'40 era block at about 140 cu. in. That combination is so rare that that unless you are very rich and very obsessive about finding one it is not worth considering. On the other hand the obvious Ford 289 would be a neat Ford-in-Ford but careful measurement of the long water pump might indicate a need for a special short waterpump. I had a '66 Ranchero with a 289 and it was a hoot! It was a tin can with an engine and fun to drive! Then surely the transplant of a SBC Chevy 327/350 should have been worked out thoroughly by many people by now. Then again if you can find a mid-'50s Studebaker V8 that would be interesting. Again a Ford 302 would be nifty, but I would have to measure carefully for the overall length and use a C4 instead of the original transmission. How come nobody from the Ford camp mentions that dang long water pump, is it so standard to use a shortened pump these days? The Dodge Red Ram was the smallest Mopar hemi at 241 cu. in. but even they are hard to find. Maybe someday we will be saying "whatever happened to all those Chevy 350s", but for now that might be the best setup for support from other installations and the 700R OD 4-speed could give both a good low gear and good highway mileage due to the OD. I know the Japanese hemis look neat but if that is what you want why not just buy a Honda?

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

Don

No this is an honest question about the hemi. My car is a
Volvo 122s,which looks like a 49 Ford ( and im making it
look even moreso ) Just had the thought from seeing
gallery pix that it might be neat if I could drop a hemi in it
or maybe even a flat head. ( a lil more power and a nice look )
But as it seems most hemis and flatheads are huge and very
heavy. Yes I know a 289 is one of ( if not ) the smallest 8's there
is. Just want to do something different.I searched alot found the
Red Ram but figured plenty of people who know more than me
and that perhaps someone knew of something I did'nt.Of course
there's the good chance that whatever pops up will be like
looking for a needle in a hay stack but,just trying to see what
options exist and if the idea is even worth the trouble. I like to
build and want something different .

The Volvo "hunchback" (that way we nickname that car in my country) can be combined with a late B20 Volvo Engine. This motor is easy to push up to 180 HP. But it's still a inline four.

A common conversion is a Chevy Small Block (to heavy on the front axle) or the Rover 3.5 litre V8 which is similar to the 48 Buick engine. This motor is full aluminum but heavier than the B20. 250 HP with no problems.

The engine of the Simca Vedette mentioned in this thread is the Ford Flathead V60 with Ardun Heads. Nice set up but expensive.

Frank

Thanx ,I well aware of the Volvo options as I have a B23F
and a B230 turbo motor. That I originally planned to use.
The main reason for the question in the first place was the
concern of size and weight.I know all the "standard"solutions
just trying to do something new. In a perfect world a V6 Hemi
or V6 flathead would be wonderful but dreaming is dreaming.
Guess its just back to the 4 banger.

Thanx to everyone for there input and info

Cheers

The Flathead 60 is a V8 with 2.300 cubic centimeters . Not a V6.
Was build in France (the heads in England) under licence of Ford/USA.

sorry to bump an old thred, but I found this Supercharged Daimler SP 250 in a Y Model interesting looks just about the right size engine for my Vauxhall and don't it look Tuff.
John Proctor's 1936 Model Y - British Tin @ Museum of Power, Langford, American & Hot Rod Show - YouTube
or how about a Top Fuel version.
Russ Carpenters Dragster Running - YouTube

BritishHemi - YouTube
I want one :lol: :lol:
barnsey

this is one of the smallest Hemi's I have saw

Pretty cool little engines. Never heard of a Toyota Hemi Bob! Thanks for resurecting the old thread!