Thread: cracked exhaust manifold
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09-26-2005 01:53 PM #1
cracked exhaust manifold
Possibly dumb question time:
Can a cracked cast iron exhaust manifold be satisfactorily welded, then surface ground to eliminate possible warpage? Or should I head for Little John's wrecking yard ..... again.
The part is the driver side manifold from a 500 c.i. Cadillac.
Thanks,
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Big Tracks
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09-26-2005 02:31 PM #2
My brother fixed a crack in the exhaust manifild of his boat with JB Weld. It lasted for 4 years and holding when he sold it. Personally I would replace it if one was readily available and you had to pull the old one off to fix it anyway.
Pat
PatOf course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!
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09-26-2005 04:42 PM #3
The welding and surface grinding would probably cost more than a used exhaust manifold. With everybody putting headers on BBC's there has got to be a ton or two of them laying around in shop corners......Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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09-26-2005 06:23 PM #4
i have some luck welding with a nickel rod with stick welder i would bolt it down to a old head V it out but not to much and the rod i used is made by weld mold in mich i think at 700 rod .if you can not fined if it let me know i will get the numer for it. weld a bit and pein it with a hammer.do not try to weld it all and keep the amps down and clean the flux out good . weld no more than a 3/8 at a time i have good luck with out pre heat do not V out to much and do not go thur the manifold the more you take out the more it will want to pull and make it crack with this rod i have weld ears on blocks and heads and it is good to machine this rod is the stuff to use
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09-26-2005 07:04 PM #5
they do make rods for cast iron , your local welding supply should point you in the right direction. the only drawback is to properly weld cast is to preheat the part to like 800 degrees, then weld , then slowly cool the part over a day or so . I`ve done a head this way , it worked good. We put the head in a standard oven on broil for like four hours until we got thetemp we wanted
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09-26-2005 07:29 PM #6
Also like pat said a nickel / copper -nickel alloy will also be machineable a mild steel rod with a special flux won`t hope this helps
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09-29-2005 09:53 AM #7
Thanks, Pat, Dave, Pat again, and Hotroddaddy,
I apprecciate your input. I'm looking for another manifold and am not having any luck yet, but then I haven't had time to do much scrounging. I'm sure you're right, Dave, repairing the cracked one probably wouldn't be smart from a money standpoint.
I'm not a welder (and I can prove it!) but I know a couple of guys who are. There are several welder supply companies around here so I'm sure I can get the right rods.
I had a 383 in an old ('72) Dodge pickup. Somebody back down the line had brazed a crack on one manifold. It was holding when I sold the truck, but I was never convinced that that was the way to go.
Anyway, thanks again, gentlemen,
Big Tracks
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09-29-2005 10:22 AM #8
Originally posted by Dave Severson
With everybody putting headers on BBC's there has got to be a ton or two of them laying around in shop corners......
GOOD LUCK finding a good one(they are out there), both manifolds on my caddy were cracked & i have yet to find any at the bone yards around me that were good. hell why do ya think everybodies putting headers on caddy mtrs, cause u cant buy BUT one new manifold the other side isnt made.....joeDonate Blood,Plasma,Platelets & sign your DONORS CARD & SAVE a LIFE
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09-29-2005 10:40 AM #9
There are four listings on EGAY right now for Cad exhaust manifolds...not sure if they fit yours.
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09-29-2005 12:16 PM #10
brazing works ok but it does not bond the metal , it kinda glues it . If you know a couple of welders they should be able to pull it off fairly easy, and the rods should be cheap ,less than new manifolds
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