Thread: 4-53 supercahrger help!!!

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I bought a 4-53 supercahrger off of ebay and I need help. What do I need to do to make work it on my dodge 360 engine? There is no snout on it but I have the rear end plate and the front one. I really want to make it work on my engine. If anybody knows anything about this or used this kind of blower before please help!!!

Thank You

Originally Posted by MOPAR 360

I bought a 4-53 supercahrger off of ebay and I need help. What do I need to do to make work it on my dodge 360 engine? There is no snout on it but I have the rear end plate and the front one. I really want to make it work on my engine. If anybody knows anything about this or used this kind of blower before please help!!!

Thank You

who makes the 4-53? i've run the GM 4-71 for a few yrs.

Originally Posted by lt1s10

who makes the 4-53? i've run the GM 4-71 for a few yrs.

I was thinking the same thing?

take a snapshot of it and load it on. so we can look at it you can make all the parts for it to work if you want . the intake may be tuff to get but you can make a plate to mount the blower on a standard tpy intake or tunnel ram

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

take a snapshot of it and load it on. so we can look at it you can make all the parts for it to work if you want . the intake may be tuff to get but you can make a plate to mount the blower on a standard tpy intake or tunnel ram

yeup!

Contact BDS, Blower Drive Service. They should be able to hook you up. Be prepared to spend some money, as you have only the first part of the entire puzzle.


www.blowerdriveservice.com/ - 16k


Don


PS: It may be a little small for a 360. If it is truly a 4-53 (could be, but I haven't heard of one either) that means it was designed for a 4 cylinder engine with 53 cubes per cyl. or about a 212 cubic inch engine.

I am only 17, so I have a really tight budget. I will fab every thing myself. It does not have to make a lot of boost because my engine has stock rods and pistons They proably only handle about 6 pounds of boost may be more or less but not shure. Here is what I have done to my engine. It is has a carter 650 on top a edalbrock torker manifold cranecams 284h cam and headers I plan on buying 1.6 ratio roller rockers but that may be awhile. Also I dont think valve spring are strong if I put the supercharger on it because it will always have presure against it and lowering the spring pressure and the valve may not close all the way.

sounds like it the 4-71 replacement, and i'm not sure anyone is making anything for them. i read something about them a long time ago, and those i looked at clamped on, there was no way to bolt them on, and no one was making anything for them. like Don said blower serv. will know.

It has 4 bolts holes on each corner that hold it down. They are not the same as the 71 series blowers that are shorter and bearings need pressurerized oil from the engine to keep them a live. I reed some wear on the internet that weaind used this blower as a pattern to make theres. But I dont know how true that it is.

4-53 Jimmy blower is off a 4-cylinder engine with 53 cubes per cylinder, for a total of only 212 cubes. Its going to be marginal, even for your modest requirements , on a 360. You'll have to overdrive it a lot. A 4-71 (4 cyl., 71 cubes per cyl.} would be better, but you already have the '53, so.....
It is possible to mill a standard 4-bbl manifold so the flange is parallel to the crank plane and build a plate to bolt the blower to. I did that with a Chevy/4-71. Use a serpentine belt and (hopefully) it will slip when it backfires and not need a blow-off valve.

i had a 4-71 and a 6-71 blower, i put a 6.71 intake on both motors and then made a plate to bolt to the intake so i could use either blower on either motor by changing the plate. worked out great.

[QUOTE=R Pope]4-53 Jimmy blower is off a 4-cylinder engine with 53 cubes per cylinder, for a total of only 212 cubes. Its going to be marginal, even for your modest requirements , on a 360. You'll have to overdrive it a lot.

When thinking in terms of air volume, remember that the 71 and 53 series Detroit Diesels are two stroke engines and thus the blower must supply enough air for a power stroke every other stroke instead of every fourth stroke. Makes a big difference in volume requirements. That said, I'd look for a 71 series blower, even if it's more money. By the time the 53 series could be made to work on an automotive engine, more money could be spent than with an "off the shelf" 71 blower.

Bob

Well, I have some good news and some bad news. The bad news is, your blower is not suitable for any V8 application. The good news is, you now have a very interesting door stop.

I called BDS and ran it by them. The man said he offers his condolences, but these are just not suitable for anything but a 2 cyl or 4 cyl engine, and not even then. No one does anything with them except B and M and Weiand, and they only use the rotors out of them, not the cases. In addition, no one makes a 360 manifold for this setup.

He said using this blower on a 360 would be "like a pimple on an Elephants a**."

We've all bought stuff that seemed like it was a good deal, but later turned out to be a loser. Hope you didn't pay too much.


Don

[quote=bobscogin]

Originally Posted by R Pope

4-53 Jimmy blower is off a 4-cylinder engine with 53 cubes per cylinder, for a total of only 212 cubes. Its going to be marginal, even for your modest requirements , on a 360. You'll have to overdrive it a lot.

When thinking in terms of air volume, remember that the 71 and 53 series Detroit Diesels are two stroke engines and thus the blower must supply enough air for a power stroke every other stroke instead of every fourth stroke. Makes a big difference in volume requirements. That said, I'd look for a 71 series blower, even if it's more money. By the time the 53 series could be made to work on an automotive engine, more money could be spent than with an "off the shelf" 71 blower.

Bob

When thinking in terms of air volume, remember that the 71 and 53 series Detroit Diesels are two stroke engines and thus the blower must supply enough air for a power stroke every other stroke instead of every fourth stroke. Makes a big difference in volume requirements.
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you lost me there bob. if you put a blower on a 212 cu. in. diesel motor and the same blower on a 212 cu.in. gas motor, if the blower is big enough to do the job then 2 stroke or 4 stroke has nothing to do with it. what am i missing?

Yeah, I ran that arguement by the guy at BDS, and he said that thinking is backwards. I didn't fully get all he was saying, but he was telling me the 2 cycle had less of an airflow requirement because of the every stroke thing. He said to equate a 212 CI 2 stroke to a 424 CI 4 stroke is backwards.

It's over my head, but he is the expert.


Don