Thread: 4-53 supercahrger help!!!
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08-01-2006 07:00 PM #1
4-53 supercahrger help!!!
I bought a 4-53 supercahrger off of ebay and I need help. What do I need to do to make work it on my dodge 360 engine? There is no snout on it but I have the rear end plate and the front one. I really want to make it work on my engine. If anybody knows anything about this or used this kind of blower before please help!!!
Thank You
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08-01-2006 07:12 PM #2
Originally Posted by MOPAR 360
Mike
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08-01-2006 07:21 PM #3
Originally Posted by lt1s10
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08-01-2006 07:35 PM #4
take a snapshot of it and load it on. so we can look at it you can make all the parts for it to work if you want . the intake may be tuff to get but you can make a plate to mount the blower on a standard tpy intake or tunnel ramIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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08-01-2006 07:40 PM #5
Originally Posted by pat mccarthy
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08-01-2006 07:51 PM #6
Contact BDS, Blower Drive Service. They should be able to hook you up. Be prepared to spend some money, as you have only the first part of the entire puzzle.
www.blowerdriveservice.com/ - 16k
Don
PS: It may be a little small for a 360. If it is truly a 4-53 (could be, but I haven't heard of one either) that means it was designed for a 4 cylinder engine with 53 cubes per cyl. or about a 212 cubic inch engine.Last edited by Itoldyouso; 08-01-2006 at 07:53 PM.
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08-01-2006 08:56 PM #7
sounds like it the 4-71 replacement, and i'm not sure anyone is making anything for them. i read something about them a long time ago, and those i looked at clamped on, there was no way to bolt them on, and no one was making anything for them. like Don said blower serv. will know.Mike
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08-01-2006 09:29 PM #8
It has 4 bolts holes on each corner that hold it down. They are not the same as the 71 series blowers that are shorter and bearings need pressurerized oil from the engine to keep them a live. I reed some wear on the internet that weaind used this blower as a pattern to make theres. But I dont know how true that it is.
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08-02-2006 06:12 AM #9
4-53 Jimmy blower is off a 4-cylinder engine with 53 cubes per cylinder, for a total of only 212 cubes. Its going to be marginal, even for your modest requirements , on a 360. You'll have to overdrive it a lot. A 4-71 (4 cyl., 71 cubes per cyl.} would be better, but you already have the '53, so.....
It is possible to mill a standard 4-bbl manifold so the flange is parallel to the crank plane and build a plate to bolt the blower to. I did that with a Chevy/4-71. Use a serpentine belt and (hopefully) it will slip when it backfires and not need a blow-off valve.Last edited by R Pope; 08-02-2006 at 06:14 AM.
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08-02-2006 06:35 AM #10
i had a 4-71 and a 6-71 blower, i put a 6.71 intake on both motors and then made a plate to bolt to the intake so i could use either blower on either motor by changing the plate. worked out great.Mike
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08-02-2006 07:59 AM #11
[QUOTE=R Pope]4-53 Jimmy blower is off a 4-cylinder engine with 53 cubes per cylinder, for a total of only 212 cubes. Its going to be marginal, even for your modest requirements , on a 360. You'll have to overdrive it a lot.
When thinking in terms of air volume, remember that the 71 and 53 series Detroit Diesels are two stroke engines and thus the blower must supply enough air for a power stroke every other stroke instead of every fourth stroke. Makes a big difference in volume requirements. That said, I'd look for a 71 series blower, even if it's more money. By the time the 53 series could be made to work on an automotive engine, more money could be spent than with an "off the shelf" 71 blower.
Bob
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08-01-2006 08:31 PM #12
I am only 17, so I have a really tight budget. I will fab every thing myself. It does not have to make a lot of boost because my engine has stock rods and pistons They proably only handle about 6 pounds of boost may be more or less but not shure. Here is what I have done to my engine. It is has a carter 650 on top a edalbrock torker manifold cranecams 284h cam and headers I plan on buying 1.6 ratio roller rockers but that may be awhile. Also I dont think valve spring are strong if I put the supercharger on it because it will always have presure against it and lowering the spring pressure and the valve may not close all the way.
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08-02-2006 10:21 AM #13
Sounds I have a exspinsive door stop. I think I will still put it on my engine just for looks. My dad has 8v71 blower But that seems a little big. He plans on putting it on a ford 460. But he need parts to.
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08-02-2006 10:29 AM #14
How could this be to small, b&m has a 171 ci supercharger and they put them v8 I think this one is 212 ci Sounds like this might work if I spin It real fast.
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08-02-2006 10:53 AM #15
Sounds like you may have two doorstops at the moment. I don't think anyone makes manifolds and drives for the 6V71 and 8V71 blowers either, this is a different case style than the normal 6-71 inline blower and the aftermarket offshoots.
You're correct about spinning the 4-53 blower faster, from a theoretical standpoint. The 53 series already was "high" RPM, twisting to a rated 2800 RPM at full load. But the faster you spin it the less efficient it becomes. I'd guess you'd have to drive it 50% over just to get 5 lbs of boost. As the pumps efficiency drops this extra energy converts to heat, which raises the air temperature being supplied to the engine.
While you can continue on with the project I don't think you'll be happy with what you end up with, and it's going to cost a lot more than if you stay with a standard (off-the-shelf) 6-71 configuration.
Sorry to be a stick in the mud.
Regards, Mark
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