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02-28-2007 07:06 AM #16
I am going aginst the crowd here. I have the 6AL on the 392 Hemi, and as a driver, I see no advantage. I think they were made for racing, and does nothing to help starting or normal driving. I also had same set up on my 81 Mirada (360/380) crate motor, again no major performance advantage as a street car.
JackK.I.S.S.
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02-28-2007 11:47 AM #17
Had a mallory unilite coil on a 350 that caused a fire once due to poor coil wire retention design. Replaced my 68 Vet transistor ignition with MSD billet distributor and 6AL box and the difference was mind boggling to say the least. Especially noticed it on cold starts, warm up, and lugging around town. Missed a gear once and the rev limiter works great!
I bought a MSD 6AL and billet distributor for the 502 also, someday I'll even light it up maybe
KitzJon Kitzmiller, MSME, PhD EE, 32 Ford Hiboy Roadster, Cornhusker frame, Heidts IFS/IRS, 3.50 Posi, Lone Star body, Lone Star/Kitz internal frame, ZZ502/550, TH400
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02-28-2007 12:34 PM #18
Don -
I have had a MSD 6200 (aka 6A) on my 57 Oldsmobile since 1994 and it has never skipped a beat. Mine has been absolutely reliable and with the addition of a Pertronix electronic distributor conversion kit added in 1999, it has been hazzle free. The pertronix kit was added to the original (1957) distributor.
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02-28-2007 01:05 PM #19
moparjack is correct, there is no advantage to running an msd box on a mild build street motor, the only advantage is the built in rev limiter
Live everyday like it were your last, someday it will be.
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02-28-2007 01:13 PM #20
Originally Posted by mooneye777
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02-28-2007 01:28 PM #21
I wouldn't run a 6AL on either of my cars, neither of which are mild or wild builds. My opinion is that the 6AL is overkill for a strickly street machine, but the 6A is a good match.
I don't have one on my 34, because I really have no place to mount the thing. No space under the hood where weather wouldn't be a factor and no space under the dash. Guess I could mount it under the rear seat. Nah.
There is also a MSD 5 for those who have stock engines with no race ambitions. In some cases an MSD ignition is like Billet, you really don't need it, but to keep up with the "Joneses", you just gotta to have it.
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02-28-2007 01:32 PM #22
Originally Posted by mopar34
Why don't you want to run a rev. limiter??
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02-28-2007 01:52 PM #23
well the msd s do work good on mild street stuff much better then points. but on stock stuff that has a hei maybe not
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02-28-2007 02:41 PM #24
I got my 6 BTM, I'm going to have it fire the DSII distributor I got, I also bought the $15 MSD- Duraspark harness, so it's plug and play. a 6 AL just has a rev limiter, over a stock 6 box, a 6 M box, is for a marine application, and will work good on vehicles where weather may be a problem. Running a MSD with points, is an improvement, but in some cases, triggering a 4 pin GM HEI modual with the points, will work just as good ( cuts out points bounce signal ).You don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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02-28-2007 05:59 PM #25
i personally noticed when addiding my 6al i was able to lean my mixture out a bit and i gained a tiny bit more power.... nothing drastic but it was noticeablejust because your car is faster, doesn't mean i cant outdrive you... give me a curvy mountain road and i'll beat you any day
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02-28-2007 06:55 PM #26
thing about the MSD boxes is if you got a 6cyl or less and you don't cut the wires they will multi spark forever, which I don't think is good for the coilYou don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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02-28-2007 08:23 PM #27
depends on what kind of ignition you have it on matt... my buddy put one on his 4cyl nissan pickup, and since its got an internal coil on the distributor, the way the MSD box hooks up, it completely bypasses the coiljust because your car is faster, doesn't mean i cant outdrive you... give me a curvy mountain road and i'll beat you any day
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02-28-2007 08:50 PM #28
rev limiter whats that?
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02-28-2007 08:53 PM #29
That's what you use instead of worn out valve springs that float at 6500 RPM!!!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-28-2007 09:33 PM #30
i always thought the rev limiter was the name of that noise rods make when they hit the oil panjust because your car is faster, doesn't mean i cant outdrive you... give me a curvy mountain road and i'll beat you any day
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