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07-04-2007 09:15 PM #1
AirSled
I'm new to this forum,It'looks like I'm going to spend some time figuring this format out....
I've become possessed with this 1963 V12 702 GMC engine powering a unlimited class pylon racer (airplane).The recommended max.RPM is around2500 from the factory.I noticed the stroke is around .08"in. longer than a 350 small block chevy.
Well. .....I am interested in changing what appears to be a boat anchor into a Packard Merlin of sorts.Crazy?maybe but I am going forward with it.
The general scope of this plan is:
1.Custom cast aluminum heads,super charger manifolds,V12 magnetos,machine down balance etc.... parts,aluminum cast timing housing covers etc.... titanium and alloy .........
Very open to conversation and input.Thanks
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07-05-2007 05:30 AM #2
Those engines, and the V6 version, were a dog in a truck. I wouldn't want to have to rely on a hopped-up one keeping me in the air. It's gonna weigh a ton, even with aluminum heads and all. Why not an aluminum Viper?
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07-05-2007 01:22 PM #3
Airsled
Well. ....I am looking at the webbing"block"the oil circulation in design,the torque capacities in relation to prop rpm,500 to max.4000 rpm.the inherent torque/thrust conversions via stress on transfer thru engine core.If I were interested in a hi rpm hi hp motor I would go aluminum block.The702ci weighs wet stock at 1400 lbs.so far with calculated modifications the assembly would weigh out at 817 lbs.Via my wing area/torque/weight conversions this motor has a strong thrust "output"that if built right would make a very nice prop bender.Histories of a dog motor in the 60's is 60's concept.This is 2007,we've come a long ways.I look at the 16v merlin/packard rolls royce from the 1930's;the concept was similar to the model i'm thinking with new technologies via ceramic liners ceramic alloy pistons integrated magneto output controls via altitude density sensor controls. ......
I know I've a long ways to go;but what a challenge.
So do you think it's still crazy or just expensive?
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07-05-2007 02:15 PM #4
This may sound stoopid....but are you putting this motor in an air vehicle or a ground vehicle ? I obviously know nothing about planes...
702ci and 12 cylinders sounds pretty cool (on the street)...
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07-05-2007 02:22 PM #5
A couple of 502's would be lighter and more reliable and have way more power and torque, even at 2500 rpm or so.
You're right, we've come a long way. Why tie yourself to a 1950 design that was mediocre to begin with? Talk to anyone that drove something with one of these engines in it. Slow, uneconomical, and unreliable. Really nothing going for it.
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