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    Hi everyone
    Quick intro,
    Im from England (UK) and due to the fact we build small engines, over the last year I have got a 454 chevy engine and ancillaries a TH400 gearbox and a 10 bolt axle, I have now purchased a 1971 Ford Capri and That little lot is going to go in to it, After stripping the 454 I have found the crank to be in poor condition I would say it was re-shelled as it looks like its knocked out rod number 3. So this my friends is where I need help, As soon as I say 454 chevy in England I get a lot of funny looks, What Im looking for is this.........What would you do, you guys have been tuning these things for years so If I can benefit from your experience that would be great.
    Im Thinking this
    Stroker kit
    Oversize pistons
    Camshaft
    Balance
    Supercharger ??????
    Inlet manifolds
    Exhaust manifolds i think you call them headers
    I want to buy all of the stuff from the USA unless advised otherwise.
    Its gonna take me quite a while to build my little project.
    So give me some help from the people that know
    Thanks in advance.
    Happydaze

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    welcome to chr happy. there are alot of guys here that will be along soon to help you out. never been to the uk but love the culture and the shows. especially top gear. big james mays fan.
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    Now thats a neat build, some others will chime in on preferences and what to do but the car only wieghs about 2200 lbs ( i think) you could build a mild 496 stroker as you already appear to need a crank and have a heck of a tire smoker I think over the shelf headers might be tough as its a off breed swap .
    Sounds like fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by happydaze View Post
    Hi everyone
    Quick intro,
    Im from England (UK) and due to the fact we build small engines, over the last year I have got a 454 chevy engine and ancillaries a TH400 gearbox and a 10 bolt axle, I have now purchased a 1971 Ford Capri and That little lot is going to go in to it, After stripping the 454 I have found the crank to be in poor condition I would say it was re-shelled as it looks like its knocked out rod number 3. So this my friends is where I need help, As soon as I say 454 chevy in England I get a lot of funny looks, What Im looking for is this.........What would you do, you guys have been tuning these things for years so If I can benefit from your experience that would be great.
    Im Thinking this
    Stroker kit
    Oversize pistons
    Camshaft
    Balance
    Supercharger ??????
    Inlet manifolds
    Exhaust manifolds i think you call them headers
    I want to buy all of the stuff from the USA unless advised otherwise.
    Its gonna take me quite a while to build my little project.
    So give me some help from the people that know
    Thanks in advance.
    Happydaze
    The TH400 is the toughest 3-speed auto you could bolt onto the 454, although it has no overdrive, so choose your rear gears carefully according to what you will need on English highways and byways. If you build the motor fairly mosestly, you will have all the torque you need to haul that little car around and won't have a need to buzz the motor, so gears can be kept reasonable. I don't think the 10-bolt is a very good idea with a big block. I wouldn't use it behind a hot-rodded small block, so I surely wouldn't use it behind a BBC. Narrow up a Chevy 12-bolt or a Ford 9 inch or a Ford 8.8 inch or a Mopar 8 3/4 inch or a Dana 60 or some other substantial differential would be my best advice.

    As far as the motor, there are others on this board who know a whole lot more about building a BBC than I do, but I'll kick in how I might do it. I'm going to assume that you have fuel that will support a 10.0:1 static compression ratio. I'm not telling you how you should build yours, I'm just saying that this might be how I would build a street motor that was going into a '71 Capri. This swap is really, really going to need aluminum heads, intake manifold, water pump and radiator as well as some weight removal from the front (move the battery to the extreme right rear of the car, drill some holes in the front frame/chassis, do away with or seriously trim some components in the bumper supports, aluminum or fiberglas bumper and hood, etc.). I don't know what the front crossmember looks like, so can't comment on what kind of oil pan you will need. Get on the phone and talk to Milodon.
    Milodon, Oil Pans and Performance Engine Components
    I'd be thinkin' at least a 7-qt. pan with some doors for oil control. Talk to Hooker or Hedman about the headers.
    Hooker Headers, mufflers, complete exhaust systems
    Hedman Hedders - HEDMAN HEDDERS- Performance Hedders (headers), exhaust systems and tips
    When you are setting the motor in initally to check fit, bolt the headers on and drop the motor into place. Cut out anything that is in the way of the headers, then build it back in later, modified to fit the headers. Never let ANYTHING get in the way of a good set of long tube headers. If the steering is in the way, move the motor to the passenger side of the car or raise it a little, watching for clearance at the driveshaft tunnel. Just keep the crankshaft centerline perpendicular to the differential housing centerline.

    I was just lookin' through some parts and will list them here.
    SRP #212157 forged pistons, +0.060", 18cc dome, 1.270" compression height, use SRP #J100F8-4310-5 rings. These pistons are for use with 4.250" crank and 6.385" rods. This small dome will match up great with 119cc open chambers to make +/-10.0:1 SCR.
    BIG BLOCK CHEVY - OPEN CHAMBER - BBC SMALL DOME PROFILE - JE Pistons
    http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/product.asp?ProdID=8659
    Scat #26385 Forged 4340 I-beam rods, 6.385"
    SCAT Engine Components 26385 - Scat Pro Stock I-Beam Connecting Rods - Overview - SummitRacing.com
    Ohio #44544250 Forged 4340 steel crankshaft, 4.250" stroke.
    Ohio Crankshaft
    This "stack" of parts equals 9.780". A stock BBC is 9.800" on the block deck height. Either check the deck height of your block with a 12" dial caliper or have the machinist check it on all four corners to see if the block is standard and also to see if either of the block decks runs uphill/downhill. If they do, then you will want to cut the decks to square before going any further. You will probably also want to align hone the main bore. If the block is square, then you will want to use a composition gasket at about 0.040" compressed thickness to give you a squish figure of 0.060". You can run a tighter squish on a SBC with the smaller bore and usually using hyper pistons, but I'm suggesting forged pistons, which rock a little more in the bore due to the increased piston to wall clearance required and the fact that the bore is bigger. I would shoot for 0.050" to 0.060" on the squish. Just be careful about the head gasket and run only the gasket recommended by the head manufacturer to prevent brinelling the head. Use whatever aluminum head that floats your boat. I used Canton 310's, Edelbrock RPM intake and 850 carb on a DynoSim and made 604 hp with 595 ft./lbs. of torque. I used this cam and 10.0:1 static compression ratio...
    11-460-8 - Magnum
    Canton is out of business, but choose heads that flow about the same and you should make about the same power. Here are a few photos of the Canton product....You might find a set used....
    Team Chevelle Classifieds - Canfield 310 BBC bare heads for sale
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    for a street build cast steel crank scat cut for a 6.135 rod and use the speed pro hyper piston thats what i used many times of coarse you can always spend more money. then i use the comp star crank and JE/SRP pistons . has for headers? you have cross over were? center of engine or front of engine ? all stock pans have the sump in back of engines the one thats fit in alot of tight spots is the 57 chevy pan .some of the old iron manifolds are not to bad VS shortys headers
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    Hello again
    Thankyou for your response
    Highly detailed and informative, Im gonna space frame the front of the vehicle and rolling that through to the roll cage. so headers should not be a problem, Im concerned about the rear axle so with that in mind, what sort of vehicle would I find the appropriate axle on, As you can probably imagine from this side of the water its gonna be hard work finding the right unit, It took me 3 months to find my (now redundant) axle.
    Im gonna start posting pics soon of the vehicle and my progress. As im still a noob to this site where shall I post them.
    Cheers

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    i ford 9 inch should not be hard to find thats what i use
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