Thread: Ford 302 timing problem
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03-27-2004 10:50 AM #1
Ford 302 timing problem
I've got a '78 Mercury Monarch with a 302 in it and I changed it from a two barrel to a 4. When I put the distributor back in the timing is WAY off, but if i try to put it where it should be it dies. Any ideas on what to do??Gerig Michael H.
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'60 Buick LeSabre Flat top x2
'78 Mercury Monarch 2-door ghia(1 of 2 know)
'66 Pontiac Catalina(brother)
'98 Cadillac DeVille(parents)
Wanted: '60 LeSabre A/C components
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"There is no doubt about precisely when folks began racing each other in automobiles.
It was the day they built the second automobile." -Richard Petty
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03-27-2004 12:13 PM #2
Try the search button for timming. Streets has told people how to fix their timing problems several times, and there should be an answer to your problem there. And it will save me from a bunch of typing and anyone else.
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03-27-2004 05:53 PM #3
Put #1 cylinder at TDC on the compression stroke, set the timing mark on the dampner to zero, put your distributor in, hook up the timing light and set the advance to spec.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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03-27-2004 06:44 PM #4
Your saying to set the #1 cylinder to tdc then move the dampner how? Then put in the dist. in and time itGerig Michael H.
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'60 Buick LeSabre Flat top x2
'78 Mercury Monarch 2-door ghia(1 of 2 know)
'66 Pontiac Catalina(brother)
'98 Cadillac DeVille(parents)
Wanted: '60 LeSabre A/C components
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"There is no doubt about precisely when folks began racing each other in automobiles.
It was the day they built the second automobile." -Richard Petty
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03-27-2004 07:30 PM #5
If #1 is at TDC, the damper will be at 0 degrees. Put in the distributer so that the rotor is aiming at the #1 plug wire. That should get it started so that you can time it.
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03-27-2004 07:35 PM #6
that's the problem, the dist. is in the right place, But it has to be far retarded for it to run (about 3 inches down from the timing mark)Gerig Michael H.
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'60 Buick LeSabre Flat top x2
'78 Mercury Monarch 2-door ghia(1 of 2 know)
'66 Pontiac Catalina(brother)
'98 Cadillac DeVille(parents)
Wanted: '60 LeSabre A/C components
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"There is no doubt about precisely when folks began racing each other in automobiles.
It was the day they built the second automobile." -Richard Petty
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03-27-2004 08:10 PM #7
Probably a stupid question, but are you sure that you are checking the timing on the right plug wire?Home Handyman Forum
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03-27-2004 08:11 PM #8
yepGerig Michael H.
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'60 Buick LeSabre Flat top x2
'78 Mercury Monarch 2-door ghia(1 of 2 know)
'66 Pontiac Catalina(brother)
'98 Cadillac DeVille(parents)
Wanted: '60 LeSabre A/C components
-----------------------------------
"There is no doubt about precisely when folks began racing each other in automobiles.
It was the day they built the second automobile." -Richard Petty
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03-28-2004 06:19 AM #9
Set the engine at the base timing that you want for the dizzy...14* is a good start on a Windsor. Point the timing mark right at it on the damper.
Make sure the dizzy is pointed at #1 port on the cap.
Turn on the ignition key and hook a grounded spark plug to the coil wire. (make this by soldering an alligator clip to a spark plug and clamping it to an intake bolt).
Turn the distributor by hand until the plug fires. That will be damn close to the 14* on the damper.
Reset and fine tune with a timing light.Ensure that the path of least resistance is not you...
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03-28-2004 08:10 AM #10
I'd say you have the distributor one tooth off on the cam. When #1 pops on the compression stroke, takes a miracle to get the timing mark to land exactly on zero, you may have to move it a few degrees to get the timing right on zero. Rotate the dampner to zero with a socket on the crank bolt.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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03-23-2006 10:18 AM #11
I have a ford 302 with a b-m mini blower running 6 pounds of boost. I have severe detonation problems with the timing set at
10 degrees initial. What should my total tining be at 4000 rpm?
Should the dist vacuum hose go on top of the carb butterflies or below?
Would an ajustible vacuum advance help?
Mcfly6
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03-25-2006 12:02 AM #12
timing
60buick - If you'r timing chain is bad,you are having to take up the slack by retarding or advancing the dist. Larry
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03-25-2006 11:06 AM #13
Re: timing
Originally posted by falconkid
60buick - If you'r timing chain is bad,you are having to take up the slack by retarding or advancing the dist. Larry
Now if i could just get the front end alighned so i can safely use my horsepower
I did a burnout several months ago and lost control and ran into a ditch Been having trouble with front end ever since
Oh well time to pay the money and get it alighned.
martin.Last edited by mcfly6; 03-25-2006 at 11:17 AM.
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03-25-2006 12:06 PM #14
Re: Re: timing
Now if i could just get the front end alighned so i can safely use my horsepower
I did a burnout several months ago and lost control and ran into a ditch Been having trouble with front end ever since
I'd take a hard look at the frame because I bet it's bent. I did the same thing to a '66 Mustang a few years ago and that was the end result.Ken Thomas
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