Thread: Help! Object in Cylinder Head
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07-05-2015 07:44 PM #1
Help! Object in Cylinder Head
Hey guys, a little washer made its way into the cylinder head, I tried to retrieve it with a magnet but no luck.
Next course of action would be to remove the heads, however when I started removing the head bolts next to the spark plugs not the ones by the valves, engine coolant started coming out.
I had already flushed the system because I was changing out my intake manifold and stuff when this happened.
Need help, please and thank you.
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07-05-2015 07:49 PM #2
Engine is still in the truck obviously, and I need to know what I can do to flush out the rest of the coolant.
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07-05-2015 08:04 PM #3
I am not sure where the engine block drain is located. its a 350 small block.
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07-06-2015 07:06 AM #4
Drains are on both side of the block, in the middle near the oil pan. They are regular pipe plugs. if haven't opened these up you will still have anti-freeze in the block.
This pic show a petcock drain when the plugs would be at..joe
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07-06-2015 07:22 AM #5
Is the intake still off?
Can you see the washer?
Is it in an intake runner?
Try using a small hook made out of a coat hanger
Some glob of grease on the end of a small stick or end of screw driver
Never use stainless bolts or washers/nuts around open holes in the top of a motor(carb hold downs)
You can put a small diameter hose thru those head bolt holes and syphon the coolant level down below the spill level
clean up any anti freeze if any pets/other animals around
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07-06-2015 07:36 AM #6
I have taped a small hose to my shop vac and gone through the spark plug hole to gge things out.
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07-06-2015 08:49 AM #7
Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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07-06-2015 09:02 AM #8
Thanks guys, I'll have to attack this, this weekend, I tried looking for the washer inside with a led light where it fell into and I couldn't see anything and couldn't get anything with the snake magnet. Looks like I'll be draining the rest of the coolant and taking this darn head off. Thanks again guys.
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07-06-2015 09:37 AM #9
I sometimes when trying to suck little things up will attach a sock over the snout inside the vacume housing to catch items--------usually tho its not just a washer but maybe some ultra valve keeper, jet, etc--------moral? don't throw away any old socks--------
And a shop vac into the intake port with the spark plug of that cylinder removed can creat enough tornatic action to suck small items out of a cylinder back thru open intake valve into port area---sometimes lots easier than taking a head off in a vehicle----------
At the races-change engines
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07-06-2015 01:19 PM #10
Be sure that's where it ended up, didn't bounce off and hit the ground..
Education is expensive. Keep that in mind, and you'll never be terribly upset when a project goes awry.
EG
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07-09-2015 09:47 PM #11
So I got me a digital inspection camera, it's for sure in the cylinder, right underneath the spark plug hole on the piston, however the magnet attachment for the camera and just the camera itself I can't maneuver to get it, and the valve on top isn't open enough to put the camera in thru the top. Any suggestions? I still have yet to try the shop vac.
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07-09-2015 09:51 PM #12
I should state I haven't taken the cylinder head off the engine yet, trying to try everything I can before I do that.
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07-10-2015 09:24 AM #13
If its a stainless steel washer a magnet won't work------
Is the intake manifold on the engine?
If the washer is laying on the top of the piston---not stuck between the side of piston and cylinder wall---you can turn the engine to where oiston is nearing top of stroke with exhaust valve open and probable suck it out the exhaust--again tho, put a sock over where hose goes into buck on shop vac so you'll know that you have it
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07-10-2015 11:03 AM #14
Only thing worse that dropping a fastener down the hole is thinking you dropped a fastener down the hole when you didn't.... I admit to even removing heads looking for a missing screw only to find it on the front crossmember.
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07-10-2015 11:32 AM #15
Jerry, yes the intake manifold is off
Thank you Roger. .
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