Thread: Sleeving a Block
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10-20-2016 08:08 PM #31
CapeC21, there's a good shop in New Bedford, been around for decades. I went to school with 1 of the owners.
I can introduce you to them and you can discuss your ideas face to face and maybe save yourself some troubles / coin / etc..
It's always nice to have the chance to work with someone that you're comfortable with.
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10-20-2016 08:10 PM #32
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10-21-2016 03:59 AM #33
This sounds like a solid option, I didn't even know there was a shop out there to be honest with you. Talking to someone person to person rather than on the phone or by email sounds a hell of a lot easier too, and not having to ship the block? That would be killer. Lol. Thanks for the tip! I apologize to anyone who got hit with the negativity and hope you all keep posting and continue to voice your views and opinions.
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10-21-2016 08:53 AM #34
Well, I don't know where to start this morning. I don't want to have to post a complete resume so CC21 can see my qualifications and background plus a brief to lengthy history of my rcords and accomplishments-------so I'll just make a couple short comments and move on to servicing the furnace--------
Roger ( and its OK with me because it does add a little tempo to this site that seems to be going away) has a history (personal slant) here of trying to belittle my posts based on my actual history and abilities. That's OK 100% as it is still a lot better level than the stuff that's around the net-----
CC21 appears to be a young'un just getting involved with high performance and custom work. I'm fine with him wanting a higher performance inport fart can type car, but this thread has gotten off track about discussing sleeves--------
Sleeves weren't mainly developed to repair a cracked cylinder, but they have been used for that---Sleeves were in all kinds of larger industrial , farming type engines and let the designers use a higher quality material for the cylinder bore in a block that was made of a lesser quality/mixture/casting process. The use of sleeves let the peeps build an engine with a harder, higher density metal that worked better for ring/piston wear and sealing.
Yes sleeves have been used to repair cracked blocks and to be able to make the engines bore size bigger with an uniform thickness compared to an over bored cylinder that had varing thickness and cracking tendencies-they are used a lot for classic type motors that new blocks aren't available for.
I've used a lot of sleeves-I've put them into NEW blocks------even at stock or reduced bore sizes--- for class requirements-------- and also to have a better ring surface for some special rings that weren't compatable with old time cast iron mixtures.
Now with aluminum blocks, sleeves are pretty much a necessity, inless you want to do a very high $$$$$process on the alum and a diamond honimg process that gets $$$$$$$$$$
But as far as CC21 wanting to have a street car he shouldn't be wanting a 12,000 rpm type engine --------------
CC21 if you want my credentials let me know and I'll PM you
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10-21-2016 11:26 AM #35
Originally Posted by DennyWOriginally Posted by Jerry ClaytonRoger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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10-21-2016 02:16 PM #36
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10-21-2016 03:02 PM #37
Maybe you should look into a m irror
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10-21-2016 04:33 PM #38
Not quite sure what you mean by that Jerry.
I was just havin' a little fun at Mr. Spears expense.
Not sure why this thread is still causin' such a fuss, you didn't want the job, you were tryin' to talk the guy out of the build and go with an LS!
Now... where's my mirror??
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10-21-2016 04:58 PM #39
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I and others have experience of doing some of this type work for years------I have a complete machine shop and the reason I do is because there weren't shops that could/would do what I needed done to race the level that I did-----
I have been drag racing since the mid 50s-------thru the 60s worked on ground equipment for United airlines, during the 70s had the reputation of having the most beautiful fuel cars ever, Revell built model kits, Johnny Lightening also plus 1320inc did die cast models.
Our cars set track records, Low ET, National Records plus unofficial world records( Official World Speed records require 2 way run and its hard to get stopped going from starting line to the staging area fence)
Many magazine articals and center folds, even in Esquire month before Burt Reynolds was in Cosmopoliton!!!!!!!!!
I have done top fuel, funny car, pro stock, stock block Indy cars, dirt tract stock cars plus sprinters and midgets and followed all that with WKA Karting with my sons on the road race tracks of America including Black Hawk Farms, Gingerman, Mid-Ohio, Indy IRP, Putman, Kershaw, St. Louis, Charlotte, Daytona International and others------ we built some of our own chassis and we won races plus numerous championships including WKA World Champ in 125 Shifter class --------
As for sleeving blocks----------there probably isn't anyone on here besides Pat and me that has done much of it-------
And it ain't the route of just using a crate engine that you can get free shipping on-----
I generally like Rogers participation on here , but I'm getting pretty fed up with devoting time to discuss methods/reasons of doing something and getting picked at by anyone with no experience or knowledge of just how and why something is done in a certain way----------
If this continues---I'll be gone--------and if the site isn't changed to where we can post pictures taken with a camera without downsizing, off site storage, etc---I may take a leave also---------
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10-21-2016 05:01 PM #40
Post deletedRoger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
Thank you Roger. .
Another little bird