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10-15-2005 11:22 PM #1
Having timing issues with a chevy 350
Okay, i have been constantly having timing problems with my chevy 350. In order for my car to run without grinding the starter, i have to run the car way retarded. Once i get it running i adjust the timming and shut the car off. When i try to start the car it grinds really bad. When i run the car retarded it runs like crap, also when it shuts off, it keeps firing and rocking the car constantly then stops. I can not figure this out. What seems to be going on with my motor, i can not get it to start good, run good and shut off good. Thanks
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10-16-2005 06:33 AM #2
"Grinding the starter"? Explain.
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10-16-2005 09:37 AM #3
While your problem could be any of a hundred things, I'll outline one of the possible problems. Harmonic dampers are manufactured with an inner hub and outer ring, separated by a ring of rubber. Under the influence of time, oil and millions of duty cycles, the outer ring can slip in relation to the inner hub and give you a false reading. You can verify top dead center of the motor with this procedure...
Buy or borrow a piston stop. The cheapest I've found is the $7.88 unit, part # PRO-66792 at www.summitracing.com .
Remove all the spark plugs to make the motor easier to turn over by hand. Screw the spark plug adapter into #1 cylinder. Turn the motor over in the direction of rotation (clockwise as you face the front of the motor) until you have the notch on the damper at about 12 noon. Screw the inner rod down into the adapter until it bottoms against the top of the piston. Make a mark on the damper where the timing tab is pointing. Turn the crank counter-clockwise until the piston comes up against the inner rod again. Make another mark on the damper where the timing tab is pointing. Halfway between these marks on the damper is TDC. Use your 6" dial caliper to locate it exactly, then mark the damper with a centerpunch and put a dab of orange paint in the centerpunched cavity.
If the damper is 6.75" diameter, each crank degree will be 0.058902", so for instance if you wanted to mark the damper for 6 degrees and 12 degrees timing advance, you'd make punch marks at 0.353" and 0.707" TO THE RIGHT of your TDC mark.
If the damper is an 8" diameter unit, each crank degree will be 0.069811", so your 6 and 12 degree marks would be at 0.419" and 0.838" TO THE RIGHT of your TDC mark.
Use a dot of white paint in each of the advance punch marks and you're good to go.PLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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10-16-2005 02:37 PM #4
Could be the timing chain has jumped a cog or two. Check it by rocking the crankshaft back and forth and feeling for slack.
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