Thread: carb selection
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11-27-2006 11:37 AM #1
carb selection
i have a friend here that works for barry grant, he is getting me a speed demon for $150, i have a bored 352 with a fairly large cam, a dual plane edelbrock intake and a full msd ignition system. i was looking a the 575cfm and the 650cfm, i think that the 650 may be a little big for my motor and the 575 might be a little on the small side, i have a 600 holley on it now which works fine but im 18 and basically for $150 i have to have a carb that says demon on the front of it, that how us teenagers are haha. anyway i was wondering if you would go with the 650 or the 575 and also i was looking and they offer both of them in mechanical and vacuum secondaries, will mechanical ones get a lot worse gas milege or do they do alright. i am only making 10mpg as of no so i dont want it to get any worse, i have only owned vacuum operated secondaries so i dont really have any experience with mechanical ones.
thank you
TylerHonda Motor= 1.6L
Soda Bottle= 2L
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11-27-2006 11:49 AM #2
Bigger carb manual secondaries ,gas mialage will drop ,unless you keep your foot out of it and it has smaller primaries than your current carb.Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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11-27-2006 12:24 PM #3
A friend that hooks you up with a speed demon for $150 is a good friend to have. That said, depending how high you wind your motor, I think 650cfm is a bit on the low side.... but should be adequate. Mech sec. are better for race applications and/or light-weight cars.... vac usually better for street and bigger cars.... there will be other (better?) opinions.
2 cents,
Chris
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11-27-2006 01:06 PM #4
yah i figure if i can get a demon for $150 then i should go for it. here is the formula for carb cfm, carb cfm = rpm x displacement / 3456 x 0.85 now my motor is bored .60 over and totals 362cid if i do the formula and use 5500 for my total rpms i come up with about 490cfm this seems way on the low side for my motor. i would have guessed that it would need alot more carb than that this just doesnt make sense, i saw this and thought that i would go with the 575cfm carb but but i was also thinking that well the 650cfm is only 50cfm more but after using this formula im not sure what to think.Honda Motor= 1.6L
Soda Bottle= 2L
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11-27-2006 01:36 PM #5
that's the right formula though I'm curious how you figured 85% VE. If you only plan to spin it 5500 max rpm, the 575 will be big enough even with 100%VE.
My shortcut of cid*2 I use for a motor spinning to 6900 (~3456*2,VE=100%) I use this for extra slop so I'm sure I won't be starving at high revs.... at 5500 you'll be fine with the 575.
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11-27-2006 02:02 PM #6
If this is going in the Galaxie I might tend towards a vacuum secondary carb due to the car's mass. Otherwise, IMO the 650 is just about right ...........
KitzJon Kitzmiller, MSME, PhD EE, 32 Ford Hiboy Roadster, Cornhusker frame, Heidts IFS/IRS, 3.50 Posi, Lone Star body, Lone Star/Kitz internal frame, ZZ502/550, TH400
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11-27-2006 02:27 PM #7
i figure the 85% VE from the formula i found online i relize that my motor by no means have a volumetric effecency of 85% but it was what they recommended for a street car, im guessing that i have about 60-70% VE without doing any math yes it is going in the galaxieHonda Motor= 1.6L
Soda Bottle= 2L
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11-27-2006 07:05 PM #8
i just hear tons of diffrent people telling me tons of diffrent things. i was leaning towards the 650 the motor could turn 6000 but why? i never take it over 5500 its just not nessecaryHonda Motor= 1.6L
Soda Bottle= 2L
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11-27-2006 07:34 PM #9
yah that makes sense im just gonna go with the 650, but for a few months here you guys are gonna be my only connection to the car world.......report cards just came out so it looks like i wont be getting this carb for a few weeks ohh well ill just have to get my grades upHonda Motor= 1.6L
Soda Bottle= 2L
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