Thread: air fuel ratio
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03-19-2010 12:15 PM #1
air fuel ratio
guys: is there anything out there for a stand alone air /fuel guage?
i just installed a kit for my three duce setup,(speedway) i'm just a little
curious as to how close the mixture is...
since the car isn't computer controlled i would like to find out what
the mixture is like under load and at highway speeds.
i understand a wide band o2 sensor and a guage should be all i need.
has anybody scratch built one of these instruments?
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03-20-2010 05:59 PM #2
weld a bung in the exhaust screw in an o2 sensor run the wire inside and hook it to a digital volt meter has to be high impedance dvom do not turn the meter to ohms that will trash the o2 sensor the higher the volt reading the richer the mixture tomorrow I will find my chart to convert volts to a/f ratio and post it.......tedI'LL KEEP MY PROPERTY, MY MONEY, MY FREEDOM, AND MY GUNS, AND YOU CAN KEEP THE CHANGE------ THE PROBLEM WITH LIBERALISM IS SOONER OR LATER YOU RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY margaret thacher 1984
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03-20-2010 06:10 PM #3
I like your signature Ted.PLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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03-20-2010 07:05 PM #4
Thanks richard how do ya like the new one .....tedI'LL KEEP MY PROPERTY, MY MONEY, MY FREEDOM, AND MY GUNS, AND YOU CAN KEEP THE CHANGE------ THE PROBLEM WITH LIBERALISM IS SOONER OR LATER YOU RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY margaret thacher 1984
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03-20-2010 08:49 PM #5
fuel air ratio
thanx, somewhere in my i-net travels i've seen a a conversion chart
just got to remember where?
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03-20-2010 10:24 PM #6
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03-23-2010 02:37 PM #7
I would like to do this also. Just need to know what kind/type O2 sensor and which wires to hook up the VOM. I wished there was a checkout system on here where I could weld in a bung and check out an O2 sensor and instructions. After I'm done, return same product in same condition and pay small rental fee. Just a thought!
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03-24-2010 10:22 PM #8
just go to any auto parts buy an after market one wire gm o2 sensor they almost all the same 30.00 dollars or so. don't by the 2 wire that second wire is for a heater makes the sensor heat up faster you don't want that make sure the exhaust sys has a good ground or put a short sheet metal screw into the pipe hook a ground wire and run both wires into the cockpit hook the o2 wire to the positive lead and the ground wire to the negative lead of the dvom the o2 sensor is actually a battery that produces millivolts it samples out side air at 21% o2 and the exhaust o2 content the bigger difference there is the more voltage it produces in the combustion process o2 is fuel it burns and is converted to co2 carbon dioxide the the lower the o2 content the more dissimilar the compounds are the higher the milivolts its an electrolysis process like a battery I have a chart that will convert the dvom readings to a/f ratios packed away in my old stuff from my days of teaching I just have to dig it out I am sorry I haven't had time my wife is not doing well and I spend alot of time taking care of her but I promise I will find it and post in the next day or two.....tedLast edited by ted dehaan; 03-24-2010 at 10:24 PM.
I'LL KEEP MY PROPERTY, MY MONEY, MY FREEDOM, AND MY GUNS, AND YOU CAN KEEP THE CHANGE------ THE PROBLEM WITH LIBERALISM IS SOONER OR LATER YOU RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY margaret thacher 1984
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03-26-2010 12:42 AM #9
Why not just go here and get the right stuff to do the job. You can also get this at Summit.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/
I got one and love it. Works great with the blower. I don't know how I ever got along without it.41 Willys 350 sbc 6-71 blower t350, 9in, 4 link
99 Dodge ram 3500 dually 5 sp 4.10
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03-26-2010 02:08 PM #10
The gauges are available from many outfits such as Autometer, or Stewart-Warner, and in kit form; you just have to weld in a bung in the header collector(s), and wire it all up. That one for the OBD II cars is slick, but not the deal for a traditional hot rod. As for your three deuces, if you are running progressive linkage, just disconnect the secondary linkage and tune on the center carb by reading your plugs; then figure out where you want the secondaries to come in, and set the linkage accordingly. When you are going WOT, the AFR goes out the window anyway, unless you're going to be running that way for a very long distance or time.Rrumbler, Aka: Hey you, "Old School", Hairy, and other unsavory monickers.
Twistin' and bangin' on stuff for about sixty or so years; beat up and busted, but not entirely dead - yet.
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03-28-2010 06:56 AM #11
Ted, sorry to hear about your wife. I wish you and her all the best. I will be patient on waiting for the conversion chart. This is something I would like to see without having to buy a complete system you use for tuning once and put it away.
Bust of luck to you and yours.
Thanks
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03-29-2010 01:50 PM #12
sorry this post took so long but this work for you it has worked for me lots of times this chart is from edelbrock r&d....TED
volt a/f ratio.[LIST]
.250 15.0:1- .375 14.5;1
- .500 14.0:1
- .675 13.5:1
- .750 13.0:1
- .875 12.5:1
- 1.000 12.0:1
- .875 12.5:1
- .750 13.0:1
- .675 13.5:1
- .500 14.0:1
I'LL KEEP MY PROPERTY, MY MONEY, MY FREEDOM, AND MY GUNS, AND YOU CAN KEEP THE CHANGE------ THE PROBLEM WITH LIBERALISM IS SOONER OR LATER YOU RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY margaret thacher 1984
- .375 14.5;1
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03-29-2010 02:01 PM #13
- VOLT A/F RATIO
- .250 15.0:1
- .375 14.5:
- .500 14.0:1
- .625 13.5:1
- .750 13.0:1
- .875 12.5:1
- 1.000 12.0:1
- .875 12.5:1
- .750 13.0:1
- .625 13.5:1
- .500 14.0:1
- .375 14.5:
- .250 15.0:1
I'LL KEEP MY PROPERTY, MY MONEY, MY FREEDOM, AND MY GUNS, AND YOU CAN KEEP THE CHANGE------ THE PROBLEM WITH LIBERALISM IS SOONER OR LATER YOU RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY margaret thacher 1984
- VOLT A/F RATIO
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03-29-2010 05:14 PM #14
i have a exhaust analaizer which i have used since the 80's which reads the ratio through the exhaust pipes. i like to set the ratio is 14 to 1 for street.
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03-30-2010 06:28 AM #15
Thanks Ted
Here's to a start of a whole new project
I'll get back to you in a couple months after I have exhausted every possible adjustment and trial run!
Thank you Roger. .
Another little bird