Thread: 53 flathead ?
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09-26-2007 07:11 PM #1
53 flathead ?
Hey guys I joined this sight a couple years back when i bought my truck then I kinda stoped working on it. I have a 1953 ford pickup with the original 53 flathead. Last night i put new plugs in new battery and after 3 year of no noise she fired right up. Purrs like a kitten. This motor has never been overhauled or anything smokes a little but does run. My question is when you throttle it up there is a hesitation before it reves up. It seems to run fine and higher rpms but its the first initial throttle response htat it hesitates. Any suggestions on what might cause this. Im new to these engines but learning.
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09-26-2007 07:14 PM #2
accelerator pump is not giving enough/ possibly not working. verify by closing choke a little, if it helps, theres your cause. this causes a richer mixtureYou don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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09-26-2007 07:19 PM #3
thinks for getting back so quickly but now i have to play the dumb roll remember im ne wto this whats the accelerator pump and where is it.
Thanks
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09-26-2007 07:47 PM #4
it's part of the carb, it will pump fuel from a sqirter jet, if it's working, you should hear fuel pumping when you manually pump the throttle at the carb, to full throttle and back. old 1's had a cork pump pistion, so the cork swells and seizes.
newer carbs like a basic holley, uses a pump dia[phram which is rubber, those do not have this problem.You don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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09-29-2007 03:23 PM #5
Sitting for 3 years the gas will have evaporated and sludged up the carburetor. It'll need a good cleaning, and a carb kit.
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09-30-2007 12:45 AM #6
Yep, carb has varnished up. Those carb sprays won't do it either, you need to disassemble, soak in carb cleaner, and then put a kit in the carb, as R Pope suggested.
When gas sits it is like putting a can of coke out and letting it sit.........everything evaporates and leaves only the gummy residue. An overnight soak in something like NAPA carb cleaner, then blowing out all the passages with compressed air will dislodge it.
Don
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09-30-2007 09:00 AM #7
R Pope and Don are right on about cleaning and maybe rebuilding your carb. I had a 3 carb set up that I bought on E-bay with the guy stating that it was just taken off his engine. Looked great when I got it and put it on andtried to start it and it ran like sh--. My mistake as I found out later that the car he took it off had be sitting for 7 months. Evaporating gas sure leaves a gummy residueKeep smiling, it only hurts when you think it does!
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10-02-2007 07:11 AM #8
As well as the carb, for sure, needing a good cleaning, make sure that the vacuum advance or the actual advance plate in the distributor is working. These dists were only vacuum advance/retard, with no centrifugal weights until '57.Dave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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10-10-2007 08:17 PM #9
Thanks fellows I cleaned the carb rebuilt it and still had the problem. We drained the gas put in fresh gas re cleaned the carb and wala no more problem. So last evening I pulled the engine out getting ready to sandblast the frame. Im trying to get some prices on a rebuild on the engine but im not sure if i should bore it out or not i plan on putting the dual carbs on and offenhasuer heads what do you guys think bore and a different cam???
Thanks
Flattie 53
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10-10-2007 09:20 PM #10
Magnaflux a flathead V8 b4 thinking bout rebuilding rebuilding. prone to cracking, some fixable some notYou don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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10-11-2007 09:00 AM #11
If you want any noticible performance then bore it to 3-5/16 with a Merc 4" crank. Then with the right cam you will notice the improvement your heads and carbs will make. It isn't cheap but it will sure keep up with traffic.
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10-14-2007 12:25 PM #12
im sending the block out to check for cracks if its all good im going to rebuild the flathead. What type of automatic tranny can i hook up to the flathead.
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10-14-2007 08:25 PM #13
Originally Posted by Flattie53You don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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11-03-2007 12:50 PM #14
Similar problems turns out to be accelerator pump on the Packard's carb too.
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