Thread: 89 460 efi f350
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12-07-2018 07:38 AM #1
89 460 efi f350
I spent last year sanding and painting my 89 F350, turned out awesome, now doing the interior. Next I want to do some mods to the EFI 460. Currently all stock, dual exhaust with a manual 5 speed. Great engine just need more power/torque to pull our trailer and gear. I'm thinking a set of headers to start. First question, short huggers or is it really worth the extra $ for long tri-y? I am also wondering if I can swap out the heads to some dove-c without too much trouble? Eventually i will pull and rebuild when my $ account gets rebuilt first. Thanks for any suggestions!
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12-07-2018 02:37 PM #2
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Welcome to CHR! What gears are in your truck now and is it 2 wheel drive or 4 wheel drive? The 4wd may be more difficult to get long tubes through depending on height of truck etc. I can't help on the heads. But making it breathe can't hurt except for maybe worse mileage.
.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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12-07-2018 04:39 PM #3
Long tube headers should build torque better than shorties..
I haven't kept up with BBF heads. But I'll bet a set of AFR's can outflow any stock ford stuff!
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12-07-2018 04:44 PM #4
Your stuck with EFI heads if you want to retain factory EFI. Intake bolt pattern is different, but the heads are not bad actually. Biggest performance gain would be a 500+ CID stroker kit with the right pistons to get it to 9.5:1 compression or so and then you can put larger injectors in and tune itYou don't know what you've got til it's gone
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12-07-2018 05:54 PM #5
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Before I'd spend money on a 500cid plus stroker kit, I'd be doing a 2 cylinder delete.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
Tire Sizes
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12-07-2018 09:44 PM #6
Two cylinder delete? You can do that on a older motor? Wait, what??
I'll get my differential ratio tomorrow, it is a 4x4. I've never paid to close attention to the ratio but probably do need to check it out. Thanks for all your input!
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12-08-2018 04:45 AM #7
40Ford is thinking CUMMINS!
And it's not an un-sound idea either.
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12-08-2018 05:13 PM #8
D0VE-C heads have ~75cc heads. Anything after 1971 is ~95cc's. 75's would raise the static compression ratio beyond the capability of using pump gas due to detonation. THINK TURBOCHARGER(S).
.PLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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12-08-2018 06:33 PM #9
Ford in the SMOG era retared the camshaft 8 degrees-you can either use a crank gear from 69-70 to put it back forward or get one of the setups with multiple keyways and advance-I think that Coyles and Elgin have them-------I'd also go to a holley carb of 800-850 cfm and wouldn't worry about changing the cast manifolds to tubing headers-------one reason is the headers will tune to an short rpm range and you won't ever be in that range----
Just to give some support to this is----------I put the first 460 into a pickup in 1970-pull out of a 1969 Lincoln-many Ford engineers saw and/or even drove it at the races( not in competition) they finally got it into the 1973 model until 1979 IIRC --------
You need to set up dist with 10* (208 crank) and run total 36 at anything above 15-1800 and up
If you want to rebuild the block get pistons .015 over 4.375-piston forgings and rings are readily available for that size and get wrist pin size for BBC and bush the small ends of the ford rods down to that size---I think maybe it was a john deere bushing I used--------By popular opinions-just a grumpy old man key board bully--But really, if you are going to ask for help on an internet site, at least answer questions about what you are asking about-----
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12-12-2018 04:07 PM #10
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Most 460 equipped trucks had 4.10s. Moving up to 3.55s would help and these were offered stock. I had a 95 4x4 F350 that had a 460, ZF5, with 3.55s and it would do 12-14 on the highway when it ran decent. Most of the time it got 8-10. I ripped out that garbage and put a 5.9 cummins in it. It then got 20-22 and is still going strong out in Oregon. I never should have sold that truck.
.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
Tire Sizes
Thank you Roger. .
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