Thread: New guy with ID questions

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Hi all, I'm new here & there seems to be alot of knowledgeable folks here. Possibly some of you can help me identify an FE I've found. The number on the block by where the generator is, is EDC-6015C. Is that the right number to go by? Or are there other #' on the block or heads that would be more specific?

Thanks for having me & hope to talk to you all soon.

Billy

6015 means it is a engine block. Look down next to the starter for D70E or C6AE once u find the year u can see what sizes were made that year and narrow it down from there. Also check out the FE part of the site.

Wow nice find. That's a 1960 352 HP block. Ives is correct as the 6015 identifies the number as a block from a production vehicle. 6010 is the number used on over the counter bare blocks found on the box and block tag. The casting number on the heads is between the center two spark plugs. Date codes on the heads are above the casting number under the valve cover area. The block date code on a 60 block is above the oil filter adapter mount and is upside down. Both head and block date codes are a number/letter/number(s) sequence. The block date code will have a :1, :2 or :3 after it which was the shift the block was cast. Ex: 2 J 20 :3 . The first number of the date code is the year like 0 for 60, 1 for 61 etc...the letter is the month. A-M are the letters used skipping the letter I as it was confused with a 1. A =Jan, B= Feb and so on. The last number or numbers is the day of the month the block or head was cast. G.

Thanks to you both for all your help. All the letters really threw me off & I wasn't sure what to make of it. I'm use to seeing C2AE or the like where you can tell from the C & 2 that it is 62 year part.

I've never heard of a 1960 HP 352. What are the specs? are they desirable?

Thanks for the info.

Billy

For someone restoring a HP 352 car the correct engine would be quite valueable. These were the first true HP engines. I'm not sure if it would be a solid or hyd lifter block but easy enough to tell. I'm also not sure if they had a oil pressure releif valve like the 390HP, 406 and early 427's. Take a look at the back of the block at the cam plug area. Other than a 4.00 bore and 3.50 stroke I really don't know much about the 352HP. I can tell you if the castings numbers from the heads, crank, rods and such are correct for it though. G.

Thanks ffr I learned something too. I like those FEs but there are plenty of mysterys to solve.

I Looked at the date code today & it was unlike any I've seen before. it did,t have numbers in a row on a cast tag looking thing like you normally see. It has a raised circle with 4 numbers on it in the 2,4,8 & 10 o'clock positions. I wrote the #'s down but forgot them at my garage. Also in that same little area between the oil filter & pan is a large letter C with the letter F or L inside it but all connected.

Does any of this make sence? I'm confused. Thanks for your help.
Yes, It's definately a soild lifter engine.

Billy

Casting clock. Sorry forgot those early blocks had these. The oldest I have here are 62 and 63 406 blocks that have the date code as described above. There is some conflict on the clock. Most will agree it's the date and time the block was poured at the foundry. Others say it's a per unit type of clock cast for refurbishing the molds as they became worn. I've seen both 5 and 7 dot casting clocks also. I'd have to think this is a date code clock myself and have always gone with that. Post the clock info when you can. Like Ives said another FE mystery to solve. Who at Ford then would have thought all these years later most of us are examining these parts under a microscope. Maybe they would have been better about casting markings and dates codes....yea right LOL, G.

Forgot to add the CF logo is for the Cleveland Foundry. Now what is strange is some FE and FT blocks were cast for a short time there in the late 60's. I've never seen or heard of a 60 block with the CF logo. Early FE/FT blocks normally have the DIF (dearborn iron foundry) letters and the early to late 70's (except the 427 and 428's which remained at DIF) the MCC (michigan casting center) until phased out of production. But hey another FE mystery! Ford did what they had to meet production deadlines and maybe some overflow castings needed to be done at the cleveland foundry. Take a good look at it and try to tell which it is CF or CL. Also look for the DIF if it is a CL. From the way you describe it really sounds like the Cleveland foundry logo. Interesting. G.

I looked at the date sode area again today while it was on the lift getting a new exhaust system. The numbers in the "clock" are 3,5,7&1. I'm not sure what is supposed to be first but those are the 4 numbers. After closer inspection it definately looks like an "F" inside the "C". The upper horizontal line of the "f" is the top curve of the letter "C".

Also, Another thing I can't figure out & I've never seen them before. On the right hand side of the block there are what looks like 2 bolts sticking out of the block, partially threaded in, with a nut on each that is tightened against the block. Do you understand what I mean? They are just above the oil pan. The guy i got it from said it came out of a NJ state police car & it originally had an oil cooler that was hooked up there. Does this sound true or like a tall tale?

The numbers on the left head are EDC-E 6090

Thanks for all your help.

Billy

The only bolts I know of like that are the crossbolt main cap"bolt' but not on a 352.Are they on both sides of the block? Maybe some hot rodders work.

Yes, They are in the same general area where cross bolts for mains uaually go but there are only 2 of them on the passenger side. Wierd.

Billy

Billy, those two bolts you see are where the block was attched the the "J bar" on the assembly line. The J bar supported and moved the block along the line. It was nothing more that a large bar shaped like a "J" the block was attached to. If you look most FE/FT blocks have those holes. The early 427's that used the J bar needed to be taken off line for crossbolt installation making them a PIA to assemble. Those two bolts can most likely be removed. Unless someone machined them to go through the block to simulate crossbolts which would be just silly. Also the CF logo is the one for the Cleveland foundry and I'll decode the casting clock asap. I'm a little rusty on casting clocks LOL. G.

Yeap, and on a lot of the 60's one of those bolts was used to hold the Trans cooling lines retainer that held them together and kept them from rattling and chafing each other.