Thread: 62 Galaxie engine are they level or tilted?

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I've heard discussions about the engine in a T-Bird sitting level in the engine compartment and the engine in a Galaxie sitting at a tilt. Are all Galaxie engines sitting at a tilt? The reason I'm asking is that a friend has a tri-power setup that has the carbs all on the same plane. I know that other tri-power setups have the carbs at different planes because of engine tilt. My Galaxie has the Thunderbird engine in it and I don't want to buy the wrong intake.

Thanks,
Bob

hi unioncreek, well my 64 galaxie had a 289 in originally but, it was long before i got the car so from factory i cant tell you any facts, but i can tell you that the 390 that was in it wasnt tilted and i had a 427 medium riser 2x4 setup on it. hope this helps you, oh and by the way if performance is what your after i highly recommend you NOT doing it there are far better aftermarket intakes now, but if for looks only you cant beat 3 dueces anyway let me know if you are going this way for i might have an original oval 3 duece air cleaner for you but ill have to do some digging cant remember if i kept it when i switched to the 2x4 or not but ill check.

There is not a front-motor, rear-drive car out there that is factory original in which the motor is not tilted down at the rear. On any Ford, it's usually about 3 degrees. The factories do that to swing the transmission down to provide leg room in the front seat area and to lower the driveshaft for leg room in the rear.

If the setup you're looking at is a Ford unit, I can guarantee that the manifold is cut on a 3 degree angle so that the carbs will sit level on the motor.

Originally posted by techinspector1
There is not a front-motor, rear-drive car out there that is factory original in which the motor is not tilted down at the rear. On any Ford, it's usually about 3 degrees. The factories do that to swing the transmission down to provide leg room in the front seat area.

If the setup you're looking at is a Ford unit, I can guarantee that the manifold is cut on a 3 degree angle so that the carbs will sit level on the motor.

? well then explain to me then if the carbs sit level on a intake like a medium riser, what about the 2x4 intakes that are flat?

Unioncreek, what Tech says is right. Three degrees is about 5/8 inch in a foot so, looking at the engine in the car, it isnt noticeable.

When you say that all the carbs are on the same plane, you mean that the carb mounting flanges all line up if you put a straight edge across them......even if they are cut at 3 degrees, they all line up (if they are cut as a unit, not individually).

You can check the angle with an angle level.....put the level on the driveway and measure that and then put the level on the carb flange. The reading should be different...by the tilt in the mounting. (Slightly different results in San Francisco, your angle may vary, not valid in the Bermuda Triangle, etc.)

Yep, Unioncreek, if you look at the carb flanges and then at the edge of the intake (on an FE that's part of the head under the Valve cover) the angles will be different. But on the few T-bird 3x2 intakes that were made those two angles will be the same. Or better yet, set the intake on a work bench and you will see the differences in the angles. The carb flanges are on one plane and the manifold itself are on a different plane.

The galaxy and other fords mounted the engine on a downwards slant just like techinspector 1 said.

Originally posted by robot
Unioncreek, what Tech says is right. Three degrees is about 5/8 inch in a foot so, looking at the engine in the car, it isnt noticeable.

When you say that all the carbs are on the same plane, you mean that the carb mounting flanges all line up if you put a straight edge across them......even if they are cut at 3 degrees, they all line up (if they are cut as a unit, not individually).

You can check the angle with an angle level.....put the level on the driveway and measure that and then put the level on the carb flange. The reading should be different...by the tilt in the mounting. (Slightly different results in San Francisco, your angle may vary, not valid in the Bermuda Triangle, etc.)

Dont know about whos right or wrong on the degree if any at all i dont know never set up the transit as far as what tech said, but i know i was right on what i stated, for i was thinking tilt as in my 89 f150 the 302 is tilted close to 2" from front to rear and my ol 390 might have been maybe a 1/2" for i built and raised it to help clear the headers i put on it, so as for what i was saying earlier if you read the article i stated a 2 x 4 med riser worked on mine and there was no motor in it from the way factory had made so like i said i cant say what it was like from the factory.

Originally posted by Oldf100fordman
Yep, Unioncreek, if you look at the carb flanges and then at the edge of the intake (on an FE that's part of the head under the Valve cover) the angles will be different. But on the few T-bird 3x2 intakes that were made those two angles will be the same. Or better yet, set the intake on a work bench and you will see the differences in the angles. The carb flanges are on one plane and the manifold itself are on a different plane.

The galaxy and other fords mounted the engine on a downwards slant just like techinspector 1 said.

no tech said all fords or better yet all rear wheel drive had a angle! fords being 3 degree so ?

i think the motor is tilted down to allow the oil to drain back to the oil pump pick-up.

Originally posted by lt1s10
i think the motor is tilted down to allow the oil to drain back to the oil pump pick-up.

Great if you have a rear sump, but how about all the front sumps?

Originally posted by carbuff
Great if you have a rear sump, but how about all the front sumps?

HOW ABOUT THEM?

Bob the Tbird intake is really not the one you want. With that said if it's a good price grab it and sell it. They are pretty rare. You can then get the correct one for your car. Look for a nice clean intake and then get the new holley's from Carls Ford parts. Your correct that the Tbird setup sat flat because the engines were not tilted like the Galaxies. The Tbird tripower is unique to the bird and was pretty much a one off item. The single carb intakes used in the Tbirds were the std FE with angled carb pad. They used an angled spacer to compensate for the difference. G.

Originally posted by FFR428
Bob the Tbird intake is really not the one you want. With that said if it's a good price grab it and sell it. They are pretty rare. You can then get the correct one for your car. Look for a nice clean intake and then get the new holley's from Carls Ford parts. Your correct that the Tbird setup sat flat because the engines were not tilted like the Galaxies. The Tbird tripower is unique to the bird and was pretty much a one off item. The single carb intakes used in the Tbirds were the std FE with angled carb pad. They used an angled spacer to compensate for the difference. G.

Thank you ffr428 for clearing that up i thought there was a difference in some of those old intakes for ive had both in the past but didnt know about the different angle on car to car though

Originally posted by lt1s10
HOW ABOUT THEM?

It1s10 if you dont know they make both front and rear sump!

Originally posted by carbuff
It1s10 if you dont know they make both front and rear sump!

what do you think the drawing is showing? why dont you tell everybody how the oil get to the oil pump pick-up screen then, if its dif. than what i said. oil runs down hill the last time i checked. it dont make no dif. where the sump is if the other end of the pan is higher.