Thread: FE Differences

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Doh... What can I say it's the 4th of July, I started drinking early... I was thinking about the question about the 410...

Of course the 406 was 4.13".... You can still often take the 390's C3AE high nickle alloy casting out to 4.13 and beyond. And for a $300 block have a serious runner. (these blocks are more like $750 here on the west coast).

I've never seen a 406 made after December 1962. I'm sure you guys are old enough to remember that far back, so who am I to say... 1962 1/2 - 1963 1/2 still equals one year of production.

C4TE-C
'64 - '77/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck

C4TE-F
'64 - '77/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck

C6ME
'??/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck

C6ME-A
'??/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck

C7ME-A
'??/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck

D3TE
'??/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-1
'??/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-BA
'??/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-BC
'??/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D4TE
'??/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D4TE-1
'??/ 330MD c.i.d.
Medium Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

C4AE-A
'64 - 78/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Has Bosses For Cross Bolted Mains Partially Cast From 427 Molds, Reinforcement Webs

C4TE-A
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

C4TE-G
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

C5AE-A
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck

C6ME
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck

C6ME-A
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck

C7ME
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck

C8ME
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck

D3TE
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-1
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-BA
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-BC
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D4TE
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D4TE-1
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D4TE-BC
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs

D7TE-GA
'??/ 330HD c.i.d.
Heavy Duty Truck

EDC
'58/ 332 c.i.d.
Solid Lifters, 2 core plugs at front of block, 4 in rear, and 3 on each side.

575063
'58/ 332 c.i.d.
Hydraulic Lifters

5751091
'58 & '59/ 332 c.i.d.


B9AE-B
'59/ 332 c.i.d.


EDC
'58/ 352 c.i.d.
Solid Lifters, 2 core plugs at front of block, 4 in rear, and 3 on each side.

5750603
'58/ 352 c.i.d.
Hydraulic Lifters

5751091
'58 & '59/ 352 c.i.d.


B9AE-B
'59 & '60/ 352 c.i.d.


EDC-B
'60/ 352 c.i.d.
High Performance

EDC-C
'60/ 352 c.i.d.
High Performance

C1AE-G
'61 & '62/ 352 c.i.d.


C3AE-A
'63/ 352 c.i.d.


C3AE-F
'63/ 352 c.i.d.


C3AE-G
'64/ 352 c.i.d.


C4AE-A
'64/ 352 c.i.d.


C5AE-C
'65/ 352 c.i.d.


C6ME-A
'66 & '67/ 352 c.i.d.


C6TE-C
'66/ 352 c.i.d.


C6TE-L
'66/ 352 c.i.d.


C7AE
'67/ 352 c.i.d.


C4AE-A
'64 - '78/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Has Bosses For Cross Bolted Mains Partially Cast From 427 Molds, Reinforcement Webs

C4AE
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


C4TE-B
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

C4TE-D
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

C6ME
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


C6ME-A
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


C7ME
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


C8ME
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


D1TE-AA
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


D2TE-C
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


D3TE
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-1
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-EA
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-EB
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-EC
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D4TE
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D4TE-1
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D4TE-BC
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D4TE-CC
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D7TE
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


D7TE-AC
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


D7TE-DC
'??/ 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.


C3AE
'??/ 360 c.i.d.


C6ME
'68 - '76/ 360 c.i.d.


C6ME-A
'68 - '76/ 360 c.i.d.


C8AE-A
'68 - '76/ 360 c.i.d.


C8AE-C
'68 - '76/ 360 c.i.d.


C8AE-E
'68 - '76/ 360 c.i.d.


D3TE
'73 - '76/ 360 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-1
'73 - '76/ 360 c.i.d.
Some Have "SPECIAL" Cast Below Number

D3TE-AC
'73 - '76/ 360 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-HA
'??/ 360 c.i.d.


D4TE-AC
'74 - '76/ 360 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D7TE-BA
'??/ 360 c.i.d.
Service Block

EDC
'58/ 361 c.i.d.


EDC
'59/ 361 c.i.d.


C1AE-C
'61 & '62/ 390 c.i.d.


C1AE-G
'61 & '62/ 390 c.i.d.


C1AE-V
'61/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance, Solid Lifters, Oil Pressure Relief Valve At Rear Of Block

C2AE-BC
'62/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance, Solid Lifters, Oil Pressure Relief Valve At Rear Of Block

C2AE-BE
'62/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance, Solid Lifters, Oil Pressure Relief Valve At Rear Of Block

C2AE-BR
'62/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance, Solid Lifters, Oil Pressure Relief Valve At Rear Of Block

C2AE-BS
'62/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance, Solid Lifters, Oil Pressure Relief Valve At Rear Of Block

C2SE
'62/ 390 c.i.d.


C3AE-AY
'65/ 390 c.i.d.


C3AE-KY
'63/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance, Solid Lifters

C3ME-B
'63/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance, Solid Lifters

C3SE-A
'63/ 390 c.i.d.


C4AE-D
'64/ 390 c.i.d.


C4AE-F
'64/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance, Solid Lifters

C4ME-F
'64/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance

C5AE-A
'65/ 390 c.i.d.


C5AE-B
'65/ 390 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, High Performance, Solid Lifters

C6ME
'66 - '76/ 390 c.i.d.


C6ME-A
'??/ 390 c.i.d.


C8AE-A
'68 - '76/ 390 c.i.d.


C8AE-C
'68 - '76/ 390 c.i.d.


C8AE-E
'68 - '76/ 390 c.i.d.


D3TE
'73 - '76/ 390 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-1
'73 - '76/ 390 c.i.d.
Some Have "SPECIAL" Cast Below Number

D3TE-AE
'73 - '76/ 390 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D3TE-HA
'73 - '76/ 390 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D4TE-AC
'74 - '76/ 390 c.i.d.
Reinforcement Webs

D7TE-BA
'??/ 390 c.i.d.
Service Block

C2AE-J
'62/ 406 c.i.d.
Solid Lifters, Oil Pressure Relief Valve At Rear Of Block

C2AE-K
'??/ 406 c.i.d.


C2AE-V
'??/ 406 c.i.d.


C2AE-BD
'62 & '63/ 406 c.i.d.
Cross Bolted Mains, Solid Lifters, Oil Pressure Relief Valve At Rear Of Block

C3AE-D
'63/ 406 c.i.d.
Has Bosses But No Cross Bolts

C3AE-V
'63/ 406 c.i.d.
Solid Lifters, Oil Pressure Relief Valve At Rear Of Block

C6ME
'66 & '67/ 410 c.i.d.


C6ME-A
'66 & '67/ 410 c.i.d.


C3AE-AB
'63/ 427 c.i.d.
Top Oilier

C3AE-M
'63/ 427 c.i.d.
Top Oilier

C3AE-Z
'65/ 427 c.i.d.
Top Oilier

C4AE
'64/ 427 c.i.d.
Top Oilier

C4AE-A
'64/ 427 c.i.d.
Top Oilier

C5AE-A
'65/ 427 c.i.d.
Top Oilier

C5AE-E
'65/ 427 c.i.d.
Top Oilier

C5AE-D
'65/ 427 c.i.d.
Side Oilier

C5AE-H
'65 & '66/ 427 c.i.d.
To 12-9-65, Side Oilier

C5JE-D
'66/ 427 c.i.d.
Irrigation

C6AE-B
'65 & '66/ 427 c.i.d.
To 12-9-65, Side Oilier

C6AE-C
'65 & '66/ 427 c.i.d.
Side Oilier

C6AE-D
'66 & '67/ 427 c.i.d.
Side Oilier

C6JE-B
'66/ 427 c.i.d.
Marine

C7AE-A
'67/ 427 c.i.d.
Side Oilier

C7AE-A
'68/ 427 c.i.d.
Marine

C7AE-J
'68/ 427 c.i.d.
Irrigation

C7JE-A
'67/ 427 c.i.d.
Marine

C7JE-E
'67/ 427 c.i.d.
Industrial Engine

C8AE-A
'68/ 427 c.i.d.
Hydraulic Lifters, Side Oilier

C8AE-B
'68/ 427 c.i.d.
Hydraulic Lifters, Side Oilier

C8AE-H
'68/ 427 c.i.d.
Hydraulic Lifters, Side Oilier

5AE-D
'65/ 427 c.i.d.
Side Oilier

6AE-C
'65 & '66/ 427 c.i.d.
Side Oilier

C6AE-A
'66 & '67/ 428 c.i.d.


C6AE-B
'66/ 428 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, Solid Lifters

C6AE-F
'66/ 428 c.i.d.
Police Interceptor, Solid Lifters

C6ME
'66 - '70/ 428 c.i.d.


C6ME-A
'66 - '70/ 428 c.i.d.
428-4V, Police Interceptor, May Or May Not Be Drilled For Hydraulic Lifters… Look For Oil Galleries

C7ME
'66 - '70/ 428 c.i.d.


C7ME-A
'67 - '70/ 428 c.i.d.
428-4V, Police Interceptor, Cobra Jet

C7ME-C
'67/ 428 c.i.d.
428-4V, Police Interceptor, Cobra Jet

C8ME
'68 - '70/ 428 c.i.d.

Hey guys thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.

Hey FFR428 were you talking about this book? I just bought me a copy bout 2 weeks ago, i figure it should help me out alot.
Don

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

I have a C3AE-D 406 block with a Sept 20th 1962 date code. It has the bosses or knorbs for crossbolts but are undrilled and has 2 bolt maincaps.

Don yes that's the book. It should provide some good reading overall insight.

As far as taking any FE to beyond it's natural bore limits it all depends on what wallcore molds were used in that paticular block. Most were by the book but there were exceptions and lots of them. Coreshift is always a factor and sometimes the reason for a thicker than normal cyl wall. Say a 428 block with coreshift was unable to hold a true 4.13 bore. It was checked for a smaller useable bore and then machined to that paticular application. This was far more productive than sending a block back to be melted down or used as ice cubes to cool down the molten iron to the correct temperature before pouring the castings. Also how quickly the mixture was poured was critical. To fast and it collapsed the sand molded wall cores. This was a problem that plagued the 427 casting process the most but oveflowed to the 428 and 390's as well. Hope everyone had a nice holiday weekend!

G.

Denny, the 383, 430 and 462 aren't FE's. They're MEL's. Designed for lincoln, mercury and edsel. Actually a total different engine, although the flywheel and bellhousing from an FE will bolt right to them. I know as I put a B/W T-85 with OD from a 58 Ford 352 Interceptor in my 59 Merc with a 383 back in 64.

I kinda figured your trolling for some wise acker to come back with weird figures. I always like your sense of humor Denny.

Originally posted by Oldf100fordman
Denny, the 383, 430 and 462 aren't FE's. They're MEL's. Designed for lincoln, mercury and edsel. Actually a total different engine, although the flywheel and bellhousing from an FE will bolt right to them. I know as I put a B/W T-85 with OD from a 58 Ford 352 Interceptor in my 59 Merc with a 383 back in 64.

Yep, used a Lakewood scattershield for a FE on the back of a 430 to mount a toploader.

Duane nice catch on the MEL series. I'm not that familer with the MEL or 385 series myself.
G.

Oops. posted in wrong thread. sorry